shipped eggs hatch rate?

Discussion in 'Incubating & Hatching Eggs' started by OldMcDnld, Apr 9, 2016.

  1. Ridgerunner

    Ridgerunner True BYC Addict

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    I feel it is a personal choice, but maybe a little knowledge will help you make that choice. Of course, check the label to confirm what the medicine in that specific feed is. I’ll assume it is Amprolium, it almost always is, but if it is something different then what I’m about to say is obviously just nonsense as far as you are concerned.

    Amprolium is not an antibiotic. It is a thiamine blocker that reduced the reproduction rate of the bug that causes Coccidiosis. In the dosage in medicated feed it does not stop all reproduction but it certainly limits it. If the chick is exposed to that bug for two to three weeks it will develop an immunity to it as long as the numbers don’t get out of hand. If the numbers get out of hand the chick can get really sick or die. The dosage in medicated feed is set to allow it to develop immunity but not get sick.

    The life cycle of that bug includes some time in wet conditions. A wet brooder or dirty drinking water is a breeding ground for that bug. If you can keep your brooder relatively dry and keep the drinking water fresh, that is usually enough to control the bug. But some strains of that bug are stronger than others, you still need to watch for symptoms of Coccidiosis. A wet coop, run, or brooder are all danger spots. Wet is the problem.

    Once Coccidiosis is in your flock it is always in your flock. Even if your birds have developed immunity they are still carriers.

    Before the Amprolium can limit the reproduction of that bug and the chicks can develop immunity, the bug has to be present. If you keep your chicks in a sterile brooder and that bug is never introduced they cannot develop that immunity. A fairly common occurrence on this forum is that people feed medicated feed in a sterile brooder and stop feeding medicated feed when they hit the ground and are first exposed to the bug. Then the chicks get sick and people complain about the medicated feed not working.

    I do not use medicated fed either. I know I have Coccidiosis in my flock because I had some chicks come down with it once. These were being raised by a broody hen, by the way, and the weather was really wet just after they hatched. The run was a muddy mess. So I introduce dirt from my run where the adults poop into the brooder about Day 2 and add more every three or four days to keep up a steady yet limited supply of that bug. It also gets any probiotics the adults have into the chicks and gives them grit. To me a win-win-win. I keep the brooder really dry and the water fresh. Mine don’t have any problems when they hit the ground, they already have the immunity they need.

    If you have a history of a strong strain of Coccidiosis them medicated feed might be a good idea. Maybe with this information you can use it wisely if you decide to use it.
     
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  2. OldMcDnld

    OldMcDnld Chillin' With My Peeps

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    What brand do you guys use? I have a Tractor Supply and a few feed stores in my area so there's a bit of a selection for me to choose from.
     
  3. TimCline

    TimCline Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Whatever is cheapest. Unless you are going organic or something similar cheap is good lol. TSC brand is ok.
     
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  4. OldMcDnld

    OldMcDnld Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Is there any risk to handling the eggs to candle them? Or is it better to just do it to get rid of bad ones?

    I don't want to do anything to possibly lower my hatch rate

    Well Bonnie's and Phoebe's hatch rate I should say..
     
  5. amynrichie

    amynrichie Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Your hens will do a pretty good job of getting rid of the bad eggs on their own. They really don't need a whole lot from you at this point.
     
  6. OldMcDnld

    OldMcDnld Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Good, that's what I was hoping for [​IMG]
     
  7. Ridgerunner

    Ridgerunner True BYC Addict

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    As long as your hands are clean so you don’t get body oils or other gunk on the eggs that can let in bacteria, there is no risk in handling the eggs to candle. Wash and dry your hands before you start. Just don’t drop one and break it. You have plenty of time before they cool off too much so you are not in a rush. Take your time and be careful.
     
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  8. OldMcDnld

    OldMcDnld Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Just bought some Dumor starter/grower but I can't find where it specifies if it's medicated or not [​IMG]
     
  9. Ridgerunner

    Ridgerunner True BYC Addict

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    To the best of my knowledge Dumor does not make a medicated feed. If it is medicated it should be on the label.
     
  10. AmyLynn2374

    AmyLynn2374 Humidity Queen

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    I didn't think so either. The only medicated that our TSC sells (that I know of) is Manna Pro and it's a small bag.
     
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