Should I mix black oil sunflower seeds in with the chicken feed?

no it's 26% protein, and 20-50% fat for sunflower seeds actually. So since the numbers seem to just be plucked from thin air anyway, maybe just focus n whether they are healthy or not.

the black seeds have the highest fat content which is why no more than a few of them should be fed but fat provides them with energy so sunflowers are a good treat when they are stressed, when it is cold or ill.
I add lots of fat to my diet, it is not what makes birds actually become fat, fat gets turned into energy. It's only if they can't burn off that energy then they might become fat.

I find sunflower seeds too expensive to feed more than an occasional treat, it is more expensive than corn, wheat, barley, rye and their layer feed etc and certainly not worthy for wasting on wild birds but it's interesting to see some people would avoid the healthiest seeds altogether because they can make birds fat if fed in excess.

To me that would be the equivalent of a human deciding never to eat fruit again because fruit contains too much sugar.

As the saying goes a bit of everything and everything in moderation.

I have seen first hand what a deficient diet does to hatching eggs - it makes them weaker so if hatching out some eggs I think it is more important to add lots of different seeds, not just sunflowers.

The other argument already mentioned is that the layer feed is formulated to be all they need and feeding scratch will dilute that ratio of perfect feed.

So scratch should form no more than 10% of their diet (includung sunflower seeds) but it should be given as treats.
 
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Layer is a perfect feed for smaller high egg producing birds who are actively laying eggs, and fed nothing else. It's not perfect for reproduction, diluted with other stuff, birds not actively in lay, chicks, or males.
And adding fatty treats to their diet lessens the amount of balanced diet that they eat, never good.
Mary
 
Mary, I just love watching my birds jump in joy when getting some scratch so I wouldn't leave it out. I believe it is as important to keep them happy as well fed.
I used to feed mainly corn and wheat but I believe it is that that actually made my birds fat. Corn has not much nutritional value but is extremely fattening. I didn't know that back then.

I don't think there is anything wrong with natural plant fats, sunflower seeds are used to make sunflower oil which is touted to be even healthier than olive oil and olive oil has many health benefits, there is no argument to leave fats out

 
Of course we all need fat in our diets! And corn is 'good eats', but like everything else, needs to be blended with other ingredients to make a balanced diet. And what's balanced for one group may not be balanced correctly for another group.
I too feed scratch or corn as treats, in limited amounts, and not daily, and like to have the birds come running for it. The flock also free ranges many days, and finds their own goodies.
Mary
 
The protein levels I have printed come from analysis on bag. I posted before I mix sunflower seed in at most 2 percent. After reviewing prolly not even 1 percent I mix. Scoop and half in 5 gallon pale and I make 10 gallons feed at a time.
Moderation is the key to many things.
After reading all this guess I can still take my daughter and get a ocasional ice cream cone , guess its the same for chickens.
I only will buy the black oil sunflower if it on sale with a decent price.
From a study I read out of Brazil a formulated ration should have no more than 5.6 percent sunflower seed. Can't remember if it was with layers or broilers. Do not remember the negative effect if it was on eggs, color, or meat.
 
Never. I'd feed it to the wild birds before I fed it to my chickens.

If your birds are eating each other's feathers then that could mean they're not getting enough protein in their diet.
It could mean a few other things too but....


What exact feed are you feeding them?
Thanks! It is a basic layer pellet feed that I picked up at Tractor Supply.
 
I feed black sunflower seeds. It is maybe 2 percent percent at most of the mix I make.
Black oil sunflower seeds are high in fat, but do have protein, vitamins and essential amino acids.
Use of any treat should be sparingly.
My chickens spend more time free ranging than sitting by a feeder. the sunflower seed is a very small percentage if their diet. I never see left over sunflower seed.
Got it. Thank you!
 
The protein levels I have printed come from analysis on bag. I posted before I mix sunflower seed in at most 2 percent. After reviewing prolly not even 1 percent I mix. Scoop and half in 5 gallon pale and I make 10 gallons feed at a time.
Moderation is the key to many things.
After reading all this guess I can still take my daughter and get a ocasional ice cream cone , guess its the same for chickens.
I only will buy the black oil sunflower if it on sale with a decent price.
From a study I read out of Brazil a formulated ration should have no more than 5.6 percent sunflower seed. Can't remember if it was with layers or broilers. Do not remember the negative effect if it was on eggs, color, or meat.
Thanks!
 
I don't feed them to my chickens either, it's a high fat tasty treat, eaten preferentially, and then promoting fatty liver issues with the high status birds in the flock. Not good!
Here we have all the feed and any treats in the coop and safe roofed run, not outside, where other critters are attracted, and show up at night.
Also, feeding a low protein diet like the 16% protein layer feeds, and then adding more low protein, high fat treats, makes that marginal protein diet actually deficient, so more feather eating is likely to happen. Our flock gets a 20% protein all-flock diet, with oyster shell in a separate feeder, and their molts are milder and faster, and every bird gets what they need, actively laying eggs, or not.
Mary
My chickens won't eat the oyster shells tried giving them to them and they got mad at me looking for a different treat
 

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