Should I turn them in? (Animal cruelty?)

[Glenmar]

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This could be.....

 

[Soaring Chicks]

If nothing else Call in and say you are worried that they animals might not be getting the care they need.
They will go out and check on them. If they are bad enough then they will take them. If not then they will warn the owners and give them a chance to get vet care and make things right. Better to be safe then sorry.

 

[fuzziebutt]

Yes, turn them in. If they are neglecting the animals, then they will be made to stop, or get rid of them. Let that be animal control's call, not yours. And, you do want to be the example for your daughter.

 

[NewHopePoultry]

I filled out an online report just now.
I know I couldnt sleep if I didnt

 

[fuzziebutt]

Good for you! Be sure to follow up, and make sure!

 

[chikky]

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Good! I agree to leave the decision up to the authorities - you saw a potential issue and did something about it. And...if other people complain, there will be a history of the incidents.

 

[maple]

Often the pumpkin patches rent out animals for the petting zoo part for the season but it does not stand to say they shouldn't have appropriate accomodations. All of our local places have smaller pens than what one would not normally keep them in permenently but they are clean, maintained, and have food and water.


*I forgot the word not in would not.

 

[Cetawin]

If you must ask then Yes turn them in. You know it is not right which is why it bothers you so turn them in.

 

[Beekissed]

No, you shouldn't. You could speak to them about some of the conditions and see if this is an every day thing but, no, you shouldn't "turn them in". Every other thread on this forum talks about chickens with bare backs, bare bottoms, slimy waterers and how to prevent it, my chicken/turkey/duck is limping~could it be bumble foot?, etc.

I bet, any given day, there are many people on this forum who would not like anyone to see their chicken yards....heck, I drive by some pretty barren, sloppy, mucky chicken yards with dirty looking water. Livestock mess up their water...it happens.

Yeah, they aren't too smart if they are open to the general public and they aren't keeping things looking good but this is molting season for the birds, so they may look a little raggedy.

I visited Joel Salatin's place and found his poultry to be ratty, crowded, sickly looking and the waterers were green with slime and the man sells books and charges big money for tours of his place....I was very disappointed in the conditions but I still wouldn't have turned him in. He had a dead rabbit in one of his cages, for pete's sake!

Turning someone in should be for obvious abuse/neglect of animals....dirty water, missing feathers, flies on pig food(heaven forbid that pig slop should attract flies!!

), etc. is hardly enough to go on for your one time visit.

Why are people so intent on causing others misery in this world?

 

[dewey]

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There's not really anything listed that would have inspired a cruelty consideration in my mind. If the weather was ok enough for young children to be out and about, it's unlikely that the temps would be an issue for any livestock.

* Water can be dirty looking in less than 1 minute with any type of fowl.
* Many times the "petting zoo" type of livestock have physical issues that would mean their demise in other situations.
* We have 120+ temps here and ducks and other livestock get along just fine.
* 85 degrees is absolutely nothing in terms of animal comfort.
* It's not law here, even in our extreme temps, that many larger livestock be provided shade because they do fine without it...cattle, horses, etc., will choose to stand in the blazing hot sun/heat/snow/rain even when shelter is available to them.
* West facing shelter is usually more than ample for the numbers that were mentioned.
* West facing shelters also means that shade on the east side is available and can triple what many folks think is "not enough shelter".
* Pigs smell in the best situations unless they are kept on concrete that is hosed down 3-4x daily. Flies are fairly typical around food/livestock areas.

Being one that's very familiar with livestock husbandry I would not consider any of the listed things cause for cruelty considerations. The only thing that has me slightly stumped in all this is the description of the 2 litters of pups with stinky water. 2 large litters of large breed pups can foul water pretty quickly. Water for that tribe that's fouled within half a day or so by 2 large litters of pups would not even come close in my mind as qualifying as cruelty, nor would any of the other mentioned descriptions.