Should we try to adopt a neighbor’s chickens?

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I figured due to the duration and age of the thread, it was probably the case, and as badly as he 'cares' for them, he likely would not part with them. Some people are just like that, and do not see animals as much value. :(

Mine are pets. So I spend as much time as I can with them. They will never be "processed".

Certainly, get some more, but a little while down the track (that way you have new layers as some of the others may reduce their laying). Having said that, my 9yo still lays as well as the average hen, she was a champion layer until 8yo.

So I would suggest to get the new ones when your existing ones are about 2, 3, or 4yo. And get three. That should work out nicely with the existing four. Your shed and run are about the same size as mine, and that area is fairly good for that number. Mine do have an additional free range area, about the size of a small backyard I guess.

Having 6-7 in that size shed and run should be fine. But if in the future, you want more (and who doesn't?!?!) then add some more run or give them some part time free range, and they should all be happy enough. It seems to me that 'chicken math' has a doubling factor involved. Having just doubled my flock, it seems now 'right' and not too many!

To add to my 'interference' in the pecking order management (which was really reinforcing the 'natural order'), getting the pullets to back down worked well, but had the older ones become bullies after a while, I would have told them to back down. Without a rooster, the human becomes a bit of a rooster (IMO). But, as I said, I was more reinforcing the existing order, not changing it about. I knew my existing order, and I also knew the order of the pullets. IME, the pecking order becomes a huge issue when the higher ranking feel either 'insecure' or 'threatened' by the newcomers, and/or the newcomers do not submit, that was my approach. I think it helped that the newcomers loved the new accommodation, so more readily took instruction from my 'authority', because they preferred it over their last home at the breeder's. They also became more chatty too!

I was surprised that the alpha pullet backed down so readily, tbh. I thought I would have far more issue there. Another thing I do, when greeting, I greet in pecking order order. That way every bird knows her 'place'. I don't do it 100% of the time, but most of the time.
Greeting by pecking order is interesting, I sure it would reinforce that order. Pecking order is always such an interesting topic, I try to remind myself that it’s natural, but I find myself trying to step in at times, too. I hate seeing the lower ones get pecked on!

Ours do get some free range time each day in our backyard, although, less now that it is winter and the ground is frequently covered in snow. And as much as I would love to have 100 chickens and give them all a good life, I know that our max more here would have to be about 7.

I agree with you, I think it would be smarter to wait until production drops a bit for my ladies now, just to keep having a steady flow of eggs. But man is it hard to pass up the chance to get some more! That is amazing your hen is that old and lays somewhat regularly still, you must’ve taken great care of her. Ours are definitely pets first, too, and will always be around, I’m with you on that. Heck, if my other half would allow, they’d be living inside with us!
 
That is amazing your hen is that old and lays somewhat regularly still, you must’ve taken great care of her.

Apparently they 'can' live to like 18yo. But I figure, that is a bit like cats/dogs, depends on the breed (and care/diet). I suspect that a 'good age' for a chicken is 10-12, maybe 14, and that the 18+ are that rare bird. I had a cat go to about 22-23, way more than the average 16-18, like most of the others. Those commercial layer breeds though, probably only 5-6 years, which is why I prefer heritage breeds, longer lived, and whatever eggs they lay, they lay. I don't like to put pressure on the girls, like, 'do what you want to do girls'.

The alpha hen is 9yo, now with sprained toe joint and broken toe. She is coping with the cage, and I managed to find a couple of worms for her (to make her feel happier). Looking after her mental health during confinement.

She was adopted from a neighbour, because she was picking on the new silkies (okay, they are small, and a bit on the dumb side). She is like a chicken genius, so I get why she wanted to hassle them. She is totally fine once she establishes alpha status. Those chickens were in quite a small run (with some free range), so pressure was also a factor.

As for "living inside'. Yep, if my door is open, I can suddenly get a lot of chickens, who do get shooed out, in a gentle way. If they didn't poop inside, sure... but nope.
 
I hate seeing the lower ones get pecked on!

Yes, that is hard. But as long as the ones above feel secure, it should not be an issue.

The harmonious pecking order, is an unnoticeable pecking order, so last-ranking should not be picked on too much. If she is, I would look to the confidence of the higher ranking birds. They are defending it for a reason. So tell the bottom rank to back down or submit. She will get a more peaceful existence.
 
Thank you, a lot of valuable information for integration here. I feel I would be taking a similar approach to yours, supervising closely and splitting up the run and free range time first. It sounds like it’s worked very well for you.

As for adopting the neighbors chickens, I am not sure it will be happening. I would still really like to, but we talked to him last week and brought it up and he said he would probably go about eating them. I understand his decision, it’s always a plus to be self sufficient, I just wish I hadn’t sorta made friends out of them. We still want to pester him about it again, I don’t see him processing them anytime soon, but who knows. If we don’t get his, I would still like to get a couple more chicks/chickens from somewhere this spring.
Personally I’d pester him asap! It’s taking what he seems to be viewing as problems off his (pun intended) plate.
I’ve currently got five of my original flock, plus one girl from a group I raised from day-old with my flock before they went to live with a family friend.
Tonight I’m taking in a lone ISA brown from a friend as her sister died. I’m a strong believer in chicken integration! My flock has taken in a lot of misfits successfully over their five years. We use the method of just introducing the new girl at bedtime and so they wake up thinking they already know each other.
We’ve had some issues with egg eating, but only with weak-shelled eggs or from the local ravens going into the run to find lunch. There’s more green in the garden now (southern hemisphere here!) so no issues currently.

Fingers crossed you succeed in your over-the-fence friend rescue quest!

Good cluck from Australia!
 
For anyone still here…

It’s taken a while but we kept asking. He insisted he was going to eat her (the egg eater). Tonight he was getting ready to cull her, just gonna smash her with a 2x4 he says :mad::hitand my better half happened to be out there while the guy was holding her. He told the guy to just give her to us. I’m not sure why tonight was different, but he did just that, he handed her over the fence.

We are a bit unprepared tonight, so she’s in the coop now sleeping on a different roost than the other girls. I did have a chance to give her a once over for mites/lice and any signs of respiratory illness and she seems okay. She’s used to sleeping with a heat lamp, so I’m a little nervous, it’s going to be a bit below 20 degrees tonight. I put her on a heated roost and placed a radiant heater by her, I hope she will be okay.

I really wanted more than one, not just for one loner chicken to come over, but I’m also happy to save her. I’ll get up extra early tomorrow to monitor them when they wake up and probably separate her for good measure. They did see and hear each other a bit from day to day when they were at an angle not blocked by the coop and trees, so I hope that will help with the integration.

Rereading everyone’s advice tonight. I’ll probably have questions, so i will post as well as pics of her tomorrow!
 
I’ve also had good luck adding in chickens to my flock. I’ve had some unexpected rescues where I’ve had a single chicken, that I have just stuck in the coop at night with the other birds, and in the morning, everyone has been fine with very few squabbles. It is risky, but I’ve never had a problem with it. If I had several chickens to integrate, I would try to keep them penned up close by so they can get to know your current flock safely. Good luck!

My flock has taken in a lot of misfits successfully over their five years. We use the method of just introducing the new girl at bedtime and so they wake up thinking they already know each other.


You both have had good luck with putting them in at night? Gosh I trying this tonight, although she’s on a lower roost alone right now. I hope it works somewhat.
 
For anyone still here…

It’s taken a while but we kept asking. He insisted he was going to eat her (the egg eater). Tonight he was getting ready to cull her, just gonna smash her with a 2x4 he says :mad::hitand my better half happened to be out there while the guy was holding her. He told the guy to just give her to us. I’m not sure why tonight was different, but he did just that, he handed her over the fence.

We are a bit unprepared tonight, so she’s in the coop now sleeping on a different roost than the other girls. I did have a chance to give her a once over for mites/lice and any signs of respiratory illness and she seems okay. She’s used to sleeping with a heat lamp, so I’m a little nervous, it’s going to be a bit below 20 degrees tonight. I put her on a heated roost and placed a radiant heater by her, I hope she will be okay.

I really wanted more than one, not just for one loner chicken to come over, but I’m also happy to save her. I’ll get up extra early tomorrow to monitor them when they wake up and probably separate her for good measure. They did see and hear each other a bit from day to day when they were at an angle not blocked by the coop and trees, so I hope that will help with the integration.

Rereading everyone’s advice tonight. I’ll probably have questions, so i will post as well as pics of her tomorrow!
What a cruel person! You did a great thing, thank you. :hugs
 

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