Should we use Manna Pro Poultry Conditioner for our 4H project?

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

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CHF = Congestive Heart Failure

WOW...30% protein? How old are they? It's the protein that packs on the fat.

Protein does not put fat on. Protein builds muscle. If it is not used, any excess is pooped out. Chickens can not store protein. Carbs and fat put on fat.

Actually the protein is not excreted, the Nitrogen from the protein is excreted in the feces of a chicken. The carbon chain from the amino acid is shunted to either carbohydrate formation or fat deposition, so protein can definitely result in fat but it is a very metabolicly expensive to do so.

Jim

 

[myhubbycallsmechickeemama]

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CHF = Congestive Heart Failure

WOW...30% protein? How old are they? It's the protein that packs on the fat.

Protein does not put fat on. Protein builds muscle. If it is not used, any excess is pooped out. Chickens can not store protein. Carbs and fat put on fat.

Sorry....my bad

 

[itsy]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

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Protein does not put fat on. Protein builds muscle. If it is not used, any excess is pooped out. Chickens can not store protein. Carbs and fat put on fat.

Actually the protein is not excreted, the Nitrogen from the protein is excreted in the feces of a chicken. The carbon chain from the amino acid is shunted to either carbohydrate formation or fat deposition, so protein can definitely result in fat but it is a very metabolicly expensive to do so.

Jim​

 

[myhubbycallsmechickeemama]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

Quote:
Protein does not put fat on. Protein builds muscle. If it is not used, any excess is pooped out. Chickens can not store protein. Carbs and fat put on fat.

Actually the protein is not excreted, the Nitrogen from the protein is excreted in the feces of a chicken. The carbon chain from the amino acid is shunted to either carbohydrate formation or fat deposition, so protein can definitely result in fat but it is a very metabolicly expensive to do so.

Jim​

Whew...so I was kinda right!

 

[4-H chicken mom]

I would not drastically lower your protein level now if you are getting close to your fair. It could make your birds feel soft. A good judge can tell if a bird has been held back. Good luck.

 

[PikeCo]

Thanks for all the input guys. I wonder if we don't see them get fat because they are so young at show time (six weeks)? I would think a younger bird could handle a little extra protein easier than an older bird. I could be way off though. I just know from my past experience that they seem more solid on the high protein. The softest birds we had were on 22% feed. They didn't show great either. We have stepped up protein levels every year since, and continue to do better each year. I just hope we haven't gone too high with it. Again, thank you.