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No, when I see gameness I view a cock that will never give up. Which is why they need to be separated. Most Shamo are indeed aggressive towards other cocks, even my hens are aggressive at times, but I have seen enough from them (and no I did not do anything illegal before anyone jumps to conclusions) to tell you bluntly they are not game. And these birds are from one of the best lines of Shamo in the states, the Jim Zook lines, one hen being direct (though I received her from someone else, and I will note I don't pass this information long in a negative way of them, as they are good people and I speak only in regards of the Shamo which were new to them as well) and the others being her sons/daughter where I didn't even have time to ruin them (their father also came from Zook).

Though gamecocks will be aggressive, aggressiveness does not equal a game cock. If birds merely fighting equals a gamecock, then Rhode Island Reds, Leghorns, and even the Fayoumis I had once can be well placed within the realm of a gamecock. But anyone will clearly tell you, "No, they're not". The Shamo breed in itself is a true gamecock no doubt, the history of them can show that. But most lines in the US are nothing more than a exhibition bird.

On a lighter note though, Shamo are excellent birds. I still enjoy them, and plan to keep them around for awhile. But I won't refer to them as a game.

God bless,
Daniel.
 
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No, when I see gameness I view a cock that will never give up. Which is why they need to be separated. Most Shamo are indeed aggressive towards other cocks, even my hens are aggressive at times, but I have seen enough from them (and no I did not do anything illegal before anyone jumps to conclusions) to tell you bluntly they are not game. And these birds are from one of the best lines of Shamo in the states, the Jim Zook lines, one hen being direct and the others being her sons/daughter where I didn't even have time to ruin them (their father also came from Zook).

Though gamecocks will be aggressive, aggressiveness does not equal a game cock. If birds merely fighting equals a gamecock, then Rhode Island Reds, Leghorns, and even the Fayoumis I had once can be well placed within the realm of a gamecock. But anyone will clearly tell you, "No, they're not". The Shamo breed in itself is a true gamecock no doubt, the history of them can show that. But most lines in the US are nothing more than a exhibition bird.

I think I understand the difference in what you are saying. I was cautioned when I got these that once they start fighting they will not stop till one or both are dead. When he went after the feral rooster that was cutting across the yard he refused to quit. He was running him all over the yard, stomping him on the back and pulling feathers out and stabbing him with his beak. When I finally managed to catch him he was livid and panting and struggled for me to put him back down. My other roosters (on another section of the yard) I see fight sometimes but it is head to head (or feet to feet!) and eventually someone decides that the other has trumped them and they quit. I don't think he would have quit. He certainly wouldn't let the other rooster run off, which he was trying hard to do.

ETA: Yes they are by far the most personable chickens I have. I really enjoy them.
 
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No, when I see gameness I view a cock that will never give up. Which is why they need to be separated. Most Shamo are indeed aggressive towards other cocks, even my hens are aggressive at times, but I have seen enough from them (and no I did not do anything illegal before anyone jumps to conclusions) to tell you bluntly they are not game. And these birds are from one of the best lines of Shamo in the states, the Jim Zook lines, one hen being direct and the others being her sons/daughter where I didn't even have time to ruin them (their father also came from Zook).

Though gamecocks will be aggressive, aggressiveness does not equal a game cock. If birds merely fighting equals a gamecock, then Rhode Island Reds, Leghorns, and even the Fayoumis I had once can be well placed within the realm of a gamecock. But anyone will clearly tell you, "No, they're not". The Shamo breed in itself is a true gamecock no doubt, the history of them can show that. But most lines in the US are nothing more than a exhibition bird.

I think I understand the difference in what you are saying. I was cautioned when I got these that once they start fighting they will not stop till one or both are dead. When he went after the feral rooster that was cutting across the yard he refused to quit. He was running him all over the yard, stomping him on the back and pulling feathers out and stabbing him with his beak. When I finally managed to catch him he was livid and panting and struggled for me to put him back down. My other roosters (on another section of the yard) I see fight sometimes but it is head to head (or feet to feet!) and eventually someone decides that the other has trumped them and they quit. I don't think he would have quit. He certainly wouldn't let the other rooster run off, which he was trying hard to do.

ETA: Yes they are by far the most personable chickens I have. I really enjoy them.

What DT was referring to as refusal to quit is when they are losing, not when they are winning.
 
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I think I understand the difference in what you are saying. I was cautioned when I got these that once they start fighting they will not stop till one or both are dead. When he went after the feral rooster that was cutting across the yard he refused to quit. He was running him all over the yard, stomping him on the back and pulling feathers out and stabbing him with his beak. When I finally managed to catch him he was livid and panting and struggled for me to put him back down. My other roosters (on another section of the yard) I see fight sometimes but it is head to head (or feet to feet!) and eventually someone decides that the other has trumped them and they quit. I don't think he would have quit. He certainly wouldn't let the other rooster run off, which he was trying hard to do.

ETA: Yes they are by far the most personable chickens I have. I really enjoy them.

What DT was referring to as refusal to quit is when they are losing, not when they are winning.

Ah! Okay, thanks. I needed that light bulb moment. I guess that would be hard to breed for and isn't a trait that is much needed here in the US so, yes, I can see what you are saying.
 
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My Black roundheads are solid black. Do they come red as well?

Bought some biddies and the man said they were Roundhead. He's just running on the yard and not in a brood pen. His mama is jet black . Just starting and have A LOT to learn.
 
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I dare you to cross that line.
 
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What kind are these?I have one that looks like these.
Also I used to have Grey,Spangled,Hatch,and Kelsos.

Hatch / Grey
 

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