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I have a question , how do you tame one down

Birds to be tamed down first you start by not applying feed out all at once. Rather walk up to pen and apply a few peck worth of feed then move on. Come back a few minutes later after all consumed and repeat with third pass having balance of ration applied. Bird will first come to associate you with food but not a serious threat. At some point bird will work front of pen when you approach. Then get bird to take first peck or two from your hand before putting balance of ration into pen. This set up so bird will allow close contact. Then you start lifting front of pen before putting feed out to get bird used to that. Then get bird to walk out about half a step for small amounts of eats before gently pushing it back into pen. Bird will become accustomed to contact. Then start briefly picking bird up by cupping under breast then push it back into pen. At some point bird will allow you to pick it up without struggling. Particulars of technique not indicated but avoid looking directly at bird when approaching and move slowly without chasing. I personally avoid grabbing legs unless concerned about getting spurred and that is not with generally keeping. This assumes you start with a flighty bird; when starting with birds used to you as chicks everything is much easier and faster. Their is a learning curve to this and it normally takes on a few seconds per bird per day. Nothing is nicer than having a stag or hen you can have walk out from under lifted pen and allow you to pick it up. I really dislike having to go after one flighty bird that gets all the rest of yard riled up.
 
Birds to be tamed down first you start by not applying feed out all at once.  Rather walk up to pen and apply a few peck worth of feed then move on.  Come back a few minutes later after all consumed and repeat with third pass having balance of ration applied.  Bird will first come to associate you with food but not a serious threat.  At some point bird will work front of pen when you approach.  Then get bird to take first peck or two from your hand before putting balance of ration into pen.  This set up so bird will allow close contact.  Then you start lifting front of pen before putting feed out to get bird used to that.  Then get bird to walk out about half a step for small amounts of eats before gently pushing it back into pen.  Bird will become accustomed to contact.  Then start briefly picking bird up by cupping under breast then push it back into pen.  At some point bird will allow you to pick it up without struggling.  Particulars of technique not indicated but avoid looking directly at bird when approaching and move slowly without chasing.  I personally avoid grabbing legs unless concerned about getting spurred and that is not with generally keeping.  This assumes you start with a flighty bird; when starting with birds used to you as chicks everything is much easier and faster.  Their is a learning curve to this and it normally takes on a few seconds per bird per day.  Nothing is nicer than having a stag or hen you can have walk out from under lifted pen and allow you to pick it up.  I really dislike having to go after one flighty bird that gets all the rest of yard riled up.




Thank you for your helpful advice on taming.

I am having difficulty integrating my Ko Shamo. I have 3 groups of: 1(hen), 4( 1 hen & 3 stags), and 2 ( 2 hens).which were hatched and raised by me. Each and every Ko is very friendly & delightful, and extremely easy to handle by us; but, neither has any tolerance to any other bird from the other group. They are between the ages of 3 to 5 1/2 mos. old.

First, I put them in cages next to each other separated with wire which ended up not being such a wise decision for they were trying to bite through the wires. Then, added plexiglass to the wires which of course stopped biting but, even after couple of weeks, could not put them inside the same cage because they started to fight immediately.

I separated them to different cages where they would not be able to see or hear each other for about a week, then assemble 3 breeding groups but, unfortunately did not work at all. I tried the integration inside as well as outside with disappointing results. I found that the hens are better in fighting than the stags.

All of them are very gentle and friendly with us; but, refusing to accept each other. I am afraid to allow them to fight it out because they are quite serious when they attack, and am afraid they will seriously hurt each other which is an end result which I am afraid of.

I am wondering if you would have any suggestions as to how I should go about solving my integration problems?

Thank you!

Lual



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My hen used to be sweet and nice. No she bites and attacks me. She has one spur, crows sometimes but its very pitiful, and doesnt lay but i know shes a hen. ,my roo tries to breed her. WHy do you think this is.?
 
In my opinion.....

I found keeping them outside so they have plenty of room to run away is the best way to introduce chickens to eachother (with the exception of gamecocks which dont integrate with eachother obvioulsy). Introductions in cages is not a good idea, because the dominant ones will always be able to catch the lesser ones.

In the open they may still try to establish dominance by fighting, but at that young of age one will typically give up and run. If they have plenty of room to run they will avoid injury. The dominant one will eventually tire out and stop chasing. The dominant one will always peck at the lesser because of the "pecking order"... but as the stags get older they will end up putting the hens in place.

Another good idea is to introduce them at feeding time.... if they are starving and you set them outside and throw some food they should be more interested in food than fighting.

In my experience, ff they dont give up fighting then you will have to seperate them temporarily by pushing them away about 20 ft from eachother... just keep doing that until they stop running back to fight... One will most likely realize that he/she doesnt want to keep fighting and run away. The temporary seperating gives them a chance to calm down and get their head of the fighting mentality.
 
Another trick is to throw an adult rooster into the mix...

If you have an established dominant rooster he may keep the peace by dominating all of them. I have had an adult rooster break up stag fights by going in and kicking their butts. They were more worried about staying away from him then fighting with eachother.

But for some reason my roosters wont break up hens fighting... actually the may, but I have not witnessed it.
 
Yup, food, space, and the trick I use, keeping a dominant cock out that breaks up all the fights. Here's my experience, some birds, close quarters, just forget about it, it's not happening. But out side in freedom, they will all be found under the same bush preening. (they still don't get along if penned)
Ko shamo are not game, however, they will probably fight longer than many breeds, but if you let them work it out, you shouldn't have anymore fighting problems, even if they still do not 'like' each other. There is a little chance of injury, but get rid of the spurs, and hope all will go as it usually does during pecking order skirmishes...perfectly fine.
 
My hen used to be sweet and nice. No she bites and attacks me. She has one spur, crows sometimes but its very pitiful, and doesnt lay but i know shes a hen. ,my roo tries to breed her. WHy do you think this is.?
Sounds like a "sex change". Duh :) Often they go back to normal, often they don't Especially when it's an old hen. Is she old, or molting?
 
lualshannon,

I do not know specifically about any of the Asian or Indian gamefowl breeds but they do not have to be truly game to cause damage in confinement. I would keep the groups separate until birds are fully mature, then do your juggling. You best ask around about how mature hens will handle such arrangements as they may require you keep them separate from each other and rotate male between hen pens if hatching eggs are desired. If hens are not housed in same pen then I would treat them like cocks making sure they cannot fight through pen wire.
 

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