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Seriously? We are talking about animals that not only will eat their own waste but each other as well? As someone that has worked with search amd rescue, man trailers and cadaver dogs, it would be a challenge to train a dog to do that.

Seriously. American games appear trainable for such. Some folks have indicated the orientals such as Aseels are smarter. From what I have seen the birds appear pretty good at estmating how much food is in a particular location and may even take different foraging routes in a free range setting according to what they are hungry for.
 
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Seriously? We are talking about animals that not only will eat their own waste but each other as well? As someone that has worked with search amd rescue, man trailers and cadaver dogs, it would be a challenge to train a dog to do that.

Seriously. American games appear trainable for such. Some folks have indicated the orientals such as Aseels are smarter. From what I have seen the birds appear pretty good at estmating how much food is in a particular location and may even take different foraging routes in a free range setting according to what they are hungry for.

Good luck
 
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Seriously. American games appear trainable for such. Some folks have indicated the orientals such as Aseels are smarter. From what I have seen the birds appear pretty good at estmating how much food is in a particular location and may even take different foraging routes in a free range setting according to what they are hungry for.

Good luck

when hens are raising chicks and they find a bug they call the chicks to come and get the prices but after few calls when they see the chicks don't come for it, they don't carry the pieces to the chicks they just drop it or eat it right there.
is all bout instincts
Dogs
Already do that with their puppies without training.
In my opinion chickens can not be train to go and pick up your news paper every morning.
You can train a chicken to roost in your hand I guess you can train a animal according to there instincts.
 
The question shouldn't be IF, it should be WHY! If you raise "gamefowl" for perverse training purposes, maybe you need to consider parrots instead...
 
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No irrelevant tricks. I am going to see if they can balance diet by effectively mixing components through food item selection. I can calculate protein, lipid and carbohydrate intake easily and profile of specific nutrients like amino acids if intake quantity of item types is known. Activation of controllers of some sort may prevent them from going for the easy or short-term sweet rewards (like provided by cracked corn) and estimate effort they are willing to investment for various item types or quantities. Birds have to be smart enough to quickly learn setup; otherwise they could be stressed nutritionally. They also have to be able to have interest in going after meals that require multiple feeding / pecking efforts to enable a more proportional control of intake like realized when foraging naturally.

Perversion is having birds just standing pretty all day so they can be peddled from online pet shop. You might as well get something out of them until they go. Birds will likely enjoy the mental and possibly physical stimulation. They do like to think about food.
 
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Isn't trying to train gamefowl to be self sufficient in their diet like trying to teach fish to swim? I have freeranged gamefowl for years and believe me, they are experts at feeding themselves and surviving. If you are saying you want them to pick the protien shakes and bean sprouts over the "sweets", hell most people can't/won't do that,
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Prairiechicken,


Intention is to have birds train me in what they need.

I free ranged games for years as well. It did not require concern about nutritional requirments since natural forages are tough to beat. Transition to cockyard / keep and challenge presented in respect to nutrtion was something I did not get as involved in since elders had method all worked out. My rearing system now is approaching that of a cockyard and controlling feed cost without compromising bird health is high on concern list.

I think they are doing as you indicate, picking the proper proportions of different items. If you are correct, then as one type of nutrient becomes harder to get the birds will compensate when possible by eating more of something else to bring nutrient intake back into balance. If that is what they do, the birds may be able to provide a guide as to how to formulate my feed mix as natural forage varies with season. Such would bypass need for comparing different formulation based on longer-term growth monitoring (trial and error). I need this because gamefowl formulation handed down to me by grandfather is based on ingredients that are not always easy to get where I live now and they may not be the most cost effective either, especially since the layer pellet portion I buy but have no control over has become based a lot more on grain than animal byproducts. I do not like the newer formulations made for selectively bred laying hens. My birds do not like to eat well despite possibly having all nutrients they need in proper amounts.


Fish meat will likely be used instead of vegan fare. I have easy access to lots of free bighead and silver carp which can be ground into a paste to make fish cakes that can be stored frozen. If all goes well, when fish makes up larger portion of my provided intake during winter, then birds will be able to increase intake of lower protein / higher energy items to maintain balance. Otherwise protein intake will become higher than what is healthy and burn my birds up.
 
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