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[Garden Peas]

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All i know is the first peacock i purchased never grew a train at a young age he had 2 dinky eyes but all his 2013 offspring i have here have a cute baby train. so i am thinking it is diet related.

Zaz, I agree, diet and good nutrition have just got to be the single biggest factor in train growth.

As for the time of year... well, again, I think the southern birds are on an advanced calendar compared to the northern US/ Canadian birds. I think it is more temperature related, though I keep thinking that day length SHOULD be a factor... I do think the hen got confused last year when I started keeping a heat lamp in the bird house.

But if day length were really controlling, then I think we would see a different pattern of tail growth and laying. Our day lengths don't vary as much here in the more southern parts of the U.S. as they do in the northern parts of the U.S. and Canada, where the days become quite a bit longer in the summer and quite a bit shorter in the winter. So if it were controlled by, say, increasing day length (as some plants are), or total day length, or if trains dropped due to shortening day length, then it seems like the northern birds would be MORE affected.

But the pattern (as I understand it) is that the southern birds drop their trains earlier in the summer/fall, and grow new trains earlier in the season... (I have a bird with an almost fully grown new train and it's early December). The southern hens seem to start laying earlier in the spring, and it seems like the more northern birds don't lay as early in the season. So that just seems like it is more temperature dependent than day length dependent.

But I agree, it sure seems like day length OUGHT to make a difference

I hate it when things I think SHOULD be right, just don't square with observable facts

But on the other hand, maybe I just don't have this figured out correctly yet? Or I need more observations?

 

[zazouse]

Zaz, I agree, diet and good nutrition have just got to be the single biggest factor in train growth.

As for the time of year... well, again, I think the southern birds are on an advanced calendar compared to the northern US/ Canadian birds. I think it is more temperature related, though I keep thinking that day length SHOULD be a factor... I do think the hen got confused last year when I started keeping a heat lamp in the bird house.

But if day length were really controlling, then I think we would see a different pattern of tail growth and laying. Our day lengths don't vary as much here in the more southern parts of the U.S. as they do in the northern parts of the U.S. and Canada, where the days become quite a bit longer in the summer and quite a bit shorter in the winter. So if it were controlled by, say, increasing day length (as some plants are), or total day length, or if trains dropped due to shortening day length, then it seems like the northern birds would be MORE affected.

But the pattern (as I understand it) is that the southern birds drop their trains earlier in the summer/fall, and grow new trains earlier in the season... (I have a bird with an almost fully grown new train and it's early December). The southern hens seem to start laying earlier in the spring, and it seems like the more northern birds don't lay as early in the season. So that just seems like it is more temperature dependent than day length dependent.

But I agree, it sure seems like day length OUGHT to make a difference

I hate it when things I think SHOULD be right, just don't square with observable facts

But on the other hand, maybe I just don't have this figured out correctly yet? Or I need more observations?

Lets see my birds started laying towards the end of April the last 2 years and were done laying by the end of August when did you alls birds start laying?
My last male dropped his train from july 9th threw the 15th

 

[DylansMom]

Lets see my birds started laying towards the end of April the last 2 years and were done laying by the end of August when did you alls birds start laying?
My last male dropped his train from july 9th threw the 15th

My hens normally start laying mid-April, but last year they started late, early May. Last Egg hatched around Sept. 20th. Last train didn't start dropping until the first week of September.

 

[Birdrain92]

I started in May. My male was shedding from August to September.

 

[DylansMom]

I started in May. My male was shedding from August to September.

Okay Birdrain, you started laying in May, but when did your hens start?

Sorry I just couldn't resist!

 

[zazouse]

Okay Birdrain, you started laying in May, but when did your hens start?

Sorry I just couldn't resist!

 

[Birdrain92]

My hens started in May. I can't lay eggs that's for sure.

 

[DylansMom]

My hens started in May. I can't lay eggs that's for sure.

That's a relief!

 

[Garden Peas]

My hens started in May. I can't lay eggs that's for sure.

That's a relief!

Of course he can't lay eggs, silly! He's a BOY

 

[zazouse]

SO RELIEVED
Some peas when to a new home today and after looking around once they left i did not see Patch, I thought OH NO i sold him by accident, but they e-mailed me and told me the peacock they have has no leg band

I was a bit stressed for a while

Patch was very upset about the fire gods burning his trees, he was stalking that fire, thought the darn fool was going to get smoke inhalation