Showing breeding?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by raph, Dec 30, 2012.

  1. raph

    raph Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 14, 2012
    I have a black Sumatra well i should have, i say that because he has brown on the coverts and hackle's.
    He is a lovely young bird he looks quite good for the colours but its not in the standard of the Sumatra's.
    I would like some input on whether i should or shouldn't breed from him?

    This isn't a very good picture but if you can get the genarel look of him thats good

    This is Bruce my so-called Black sumatra.
  2. saladin

    saladin Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 30, 2009
    the South
    Do not breed from this bird if you are planning to show Sumatras. He would ruin any line you used him in. Either keep him as a pet or cull him.

    This is not some new color variety. This is red bleeding through the black. It takes many years and generations to breed this out. If your line does this then you have two choices: (1) stay with the line, hatch 100 plus chicks a year and cull to the best 5 or 6 each year; it will take about 10-12 years doing this to get a good solid black male bird; don't judge success by the females as they'll come black in no time at all or (2) get rid of this line entirely and get some good show qualtiy Sumatras.

    The above is stated if you want to show birds.
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  3. donrae

    donrae Hopelessly Addicted Premium Member

    Jun 18, 2010
    Southern Oregon
    What saladin said.

    If you're just wanting pretty yard birds, breed him cause he's pretty and flashy. If you're wanting to breed to the sop or have birds to show or sell as sumatras, he's not the one to do that with. Red leakage is a bugger to breed out.
  4. raph

    raph Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 14, 2012
    Thanks you two here is my other bird and i think ill leave breeding to him.

    He is called Sid and he is from the same clutch as the brown one.

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