Sick chicken

[chuckster33]

the symptoms suggest it could be gapeworm ive had this before and now i always use a wormer that has no egg withdrawl period

 

[chuckster33]

the symptoms suggest it could be gapeworm ive had this before and now i always use a wormer that has no egg withdrawl period

think its called fubavent 1% only has a meat withdrawal but for layers no egg withdraw hope you get it sorted soon

 

[Pinkaboo]

Hi chuckster
Just ordered flubenvet
I did wonder about gape worm
She isn't stretching her neck though

 

[Pinkaboo]

Well we survived the night( a few cleans up needed as she preferred to lay on my pillow instead of in the box) lovely bright yellow poo with no smell! Must be antibiotic that's yellow

She won't eat at all but had water
Today I noticed yellow from her nostrils , the vet was looking for this yesterday but her nostrils were clear, to be honest I think I caught it about hour after she first started with the breathing problem and we were at the vets an hour later.

I'm i being a bit too hopefully, does the snotty nose means its not mareks or gape worm?
Or would she get those symptoms with mareks too?

I'm just hoping its respiratory and the antibiotics will work, i read some respiratory can be brought on by stress, and shed just started sleeping in coop with the other chickens 4 older than her, maybe they attacked her or scared her.

Well I think I'll be very sleepy today? I'm going to leave Bertha in the house and go sort out the other chicks, I have so many showers and changes of clothes since yesterday in case its mareks!

 

[KayTee]

A couple of ideas that may help to de-stress your situation a bit, Pinkaboo.

1. If it is Marek's (which I doubt, with the symptoms that you are describing), then she would already have been shedding the disease in her dander in the chicken coop before you separated her, so the virus would already be in there. From the care you are taking of her, I don't imagine that you will want to cull her if you find out that it is actually Marek's, and if you put her back with the flock after her symptoms have subsided, she will still be a carrier, and continue to shed the virus around your other girls. Therefore showering and changing your clothes in order to stop transfer between your 'house guest' and the rest of your flock is probably not as necessary as you think. However, basic hand washing hygiene and utensil cleaning is still very important, especially if it is a respiratory infection.

2. I have just gone through a similar situation with my flock. One girl who was moulting caught a respiratory disease from 3 new chickens that I added to the flock. (Totally my fault - I didn't quarantine the new girls like I should have done, having bought from the same breeder a couple of months ago with no problems at all - STUPID, I know!) Anyway, since she was moulting, she was obviously a bit more susceptible than my other girls, and came down really badly - gurgling, rattling breathing, coughing, sneezing, the lot. I was really worried about her. The vet gave me an antibiotic powder containing oxytetracycline and spiramycin, which worked wonders - in 4 days her symptoms had virtually cleared completely. However, she was not interested in eating at all in the time she was separated from the others and kept in the house. It felt like a constant battle to get her to eat or drink the tiniest amounts. On the 4th day she had stopped sneezing and coughing, so I let her back into the garden with the others. The instant she got out onto the grass she began eating anything and everything that got in her way!! It was simply the fact that she was separated from the others that had put her off eating. She survived a few days on very little rations (and a couple of doses of 'Nutri Drops'), and certainly made up for it as soon as she got back outside.

Hopefully your girl will show signs of improvement very soon, and you will be able to put her back with the rest of the flock where she will start eating normally again.

Good luck with your girl - I hope she is getting better.

 

[Pinkaboo]

A couple of ideas that may help to de-stress your situation a bit, Pinkaboo.

1. If it is Marek's (which I doubt, with the symptoms that you are describing), then she would already have been shedding the disease in her dander in the chicken coop before you separated her, so the virus would already be in there. From the care you are taking of her, I don't imagine that you will want to cull her if you find out that it is actually Marek's, and if you put her back with the flock after her symptoms have subsided, she will still be a carrier, and continue to shed the virus around your other girls.  Therefore showering and changing your clothes in order to stop transfer between your 'house guest' and the rest of your flock is probably not as necessary as you think.  However, basic hand washing hygiene and utensil cleaning is still very important, especially if it is a respiratory infection.

2. I have just gone through a similar situation with my flock. One girl who was moulting caught a respiratory disease from 3 new chickens that I added to the flock. (Totally my fault - I didn't quarantine the new girls like I should have done, having bought from the same breeder a couple of months ago with no problems at all - STUPID, I know!)  Anyway, since she was moulting, she was obviously a bit more susceptible than my other girls, and came down really badly - gurgling, rattling breathing, coughing, sneezing, the lot.  I was really worried about her.  The vet gave me an antibiotic powder containing oxytetracycline and spiramycin, which worked wonders - in 4 days her symptoms had virtually cleared completely. However, she was not interested in eating at all in the time she was separated from the others and kept in the house.  It felt like a constant battle to get her to eat or drink the tiniest amounts.  On the 4th day she had stopped sneezing and coughing, so I let her back into the garden with the others.  The instant she got out onto the grass she began eating anything and everything that got in her way!!  It was simply the fact that she was separated from the others that had put her off eating.  She survived a few days on very little rations (and a couple of doses of 'Nutri Drops'), and certainly made up for it as soon as she got back outside. 

Hopefully your girl will show signs of improvement very soon, and you will be able to put her back with the rest of the flock where she will start eating normally again.

Good luck with your girl - I hope she is getting better. 

Thank you for that advice
two cuckoo Marans became ill today same breathing problems
Watery eyes with bubbles in the water!
I gave them Antibiotics that I had for the next two days for the faverolles
Rang the vet for more meds, she going to let me treat all the older ones in their water
I can get a swab done for £40 to detect the infection
I'm tempted to do this just to know if they will be carriers
Also the poo is pale yellow white ? Slightly urine smell

I also sold there coop because I've ordered a fantastic new walk in coop
Now I've had to explained to the buyer about the chickens and said its best she doesn't buy it just incase

The faverolles drank herself today she certainly seems a bit livelier
On my knee now

 

[KayTee]

The vet told me to put it in the water to treat the rest of my flock as well, which I did. For the girls showing symptoms I made certain they got their full dose by putting it onto a treat and giving it to each one in turn. (Mine love white rice, strawberries and bread. The favourite for antibiotics is a mashed up strawberry with a bit of bread mixed in to soak up the juice which still has medicine in it!) Mine all pooed pale white runny diarrhea while they were on the antibiotics, which is why I also give them probiotics (powder or yogurt, whatever you have to hand, but stand well back if it's yogurt, because it goes EVERYWHERE!

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It would probably be worth getting the test done. If it turns out to be a simple respitory infection then there is no reason why you can't disinfect the coop and then put it back up for sale. The bacteria that cause a respiratory infection don't survive for more than a couple of days outside the host, so if you leave it empty for a week then clean it thoroughly and let it dry, it should be fine to sell.

However, never underestimate the usefulness of a second coop, if you have the space to keep it. You will find it invaluable for broody hens, new additions to the flock or keeping sick girls in a contained area where they can still scratch around and be 'real' chickens, which helps enormously with rehabilitiation and reintegration.

I'm glad your girl is drinking on her own. Did the vet check her temperature? Mine had a fever, and the vet told me to give her soluble aspirin for two days, which helped to bring her temperature down and got her eating and drinking a bit. I just gave her the tablets that dissolve on your tongue, because they melted onto a bit of damp food. (Maximum 50mg of aspirin per kg of chicken per day.)

Let us know how you get on. All the information and updates you leave on here help other people who are looking for answers for problems in their flocks.

 

[Pinkaboo]

Thank you for some great advice
I think she has a temp but vet didn't check her
Might try asprin her nose is runny today trying to keep that clear
Can chickens have ibroprofen ? I have some childrens liquid stuff
Anti inflamatory meds are good for human colds and sinuses

 

[KayTee]

I've never seen anyone talking about giving ibuprofen to chickens, so I don't know. You have to be really careful with human medication on chickens - things that you wouldn't think would be a problem can actually do them more harm than good, or even kill them (for example opiate pain killers that end in '...caine').

Unless you can find several examples on line (not just one or two) of people using ibuprofen on chickens, I wouldn't risk it, I'd wait until you can get hold of some aspirin. It is the anti-inflammatory effect of aspirin that helps, but although ibuprofen is also an anti-inflammatory I wouldn't have a clue if it is safe, or what the dosage would be.

 

[casportpony]

Thank you for some great advice
I think she has a temp but vet didn't check her
Might try asprin her nose is runny today trying to keep that clear
Can chickens have ibroprofen ? I have some childrens liquid stuff
Anti inflamatory meds are good for human colds and sinuses

I don't think ibuprofen is used in poultry. Aspirin dose is very low and it would be very difficult to give the correct dose to a young chick.

-Kathy