Sick ducks? Help! Newbie!

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Miss Lydia said:
https://www.verm-xusa.com/poultry/poultry-pellets.html I went back and forth for about a year on buying this because it's not cheap, but I feel so much better knowing I am caring for my flock the same why I care for my family after all we are eating their eggs. I hope you can get some peace of mind about your ducks and what ever is going on passes soon. Usually niacin diff shows up in young duckling especially those who are fed chick starter being it's formulated for chicks it just doesn't have the amount of niacin ducklings need. So many of us who can't get water fowl feed or feed a flock consisting of chickens have to supplement for the niacin they don't get. I even use Brewers yeast in my feed with my adults. Maybe a few days of rest will help get the 2 back on track I hope so and please keep updating. Glad to hear the human child is feeling better too.
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The verm-x sounds good. I was thinking fenbendazole or ivermectin(which Holderread uses if he treats for parasites). These, of course, are not homeopathic. I would continue the heat therapy via warm water or heating pad with a towel wrapped around it. If they don't mind the massaging of the leg, you can do that as well, while they are recovering. If I can think of anything else, I will post it. I would go with what Miss Lydia says, as I trust her judgment.

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laughingdog said:
I have a lot of thorn type berry ect vines and bushes on my property, and hard gravel, and only had all at once get bad bumble foot, partly maybe by hay and straw used that got poopy quick and bad before cut most mentioned out. after no more foot trouble but daddy duck once (a cut). I've a month or so since also put grates in pen that cover about half of it in areas. Hunters and others "pickle" the feet/paws/hooves/claws before a hunt or race ect, and just once every so often or after problems re occur, by taking the "feet" and soaking in cooled tea, and that toughens the feet up (I've never tried).

I too spend way too much money on my pets (i figure better them than going out to eat ect..), much more than i ever spend on myself, and that includes the animals that are mostly rescues or "given" to /left for me. If you have the money to do so spend it how you would want, and not how anyone else says if you earn it. I ment that some that don't have access in rural areas and can't drive to go get things, or have avian vets. i was a vet assistant for over three years in a major city in a way too busy most days practice. seeing and taught from txt books (who else is old enough to remember when research came from proven sources like calling product companies and actual print), and from my boss, that over supplementing and medicating (its found in people all the time), can be even worse than not at all at times and even more so than slight deficiencies, but a great way for some to make money off you over and over sometime.

the ground, spring, and well water here are tainted, so much that fish are hard pressed to survive in water from them, yet my ducks have adapted as have chickens and pigeons that survive.

apples, flax seed, olive oil, corn, peas, excessive calcium than the body uses (all used as diaretics and laxatives alone..), layer pellets which are formulated for the specific needs as sole supplement source for few factory high production strains of chickens only after first year of life or first year of laying in non commercial settings (proven way more calcium and other stuff than most chickens need even), and/along with added vits mins and electro lights (most high in salts and sugars, adding to what found in layer, added to produce, added to grains ect, added to forage..), thought possibility of over supplementation then medicating for something else, was worth suggesting. you said the growing young were not bad at all if i remember correctly?

my ducks don't now usually get watery or even loose stool once i cut the rest out, but only time they do get, is when they get too much tossed out layer for my pigeons (oddly the young pigeons especially do wonderful on, more so than pigeon food i used, and helps sick and injured heal fast and seems to prevent broken bones), lettuce, peas, or corn.

mine (if scovy that different in diets and/or immunities wise never mind this part, and someone let me know), eat a lot of wild greens grass berries bugs and small rodents, as well as pond fish frogs snails, and once a huge clutch of snapping turtle eggs (i know i gotta fish five adults out of pond soon). sometimes the little woman of house gives them bread chips and anything like cookies and candy ect, and they steal dog and cat food. mine should hace the poops, especially since the well ect water alone here causes humans so many problems, da poops being one of them (i use city water when penned, also more put out when free ranging over acres, but sometimes they probly drink from pond and other ground water as well that they play in). they eat a lot of poop too. lol
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Mine like donkey poop...what can I say? It's what they do, right?
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LOL is right. Being a retired medic, you are always taught it is better to over treat than under treat. I personally do not agree with that. I do my own microscopic and salmonella testing and study my human, veterinary and avian medicine. I am also formally studying homeopathy and naturopathy, especially living in a rural area and the closest hospital and vet being 40+ miles away, and if you need a trauma center or severe medical situation, you are choppered to Albuquerque, Las Cruces or El Paso. So I have my tools handy and kept up to date.
 
Miss Lydia said:
cold by now.
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By the way...so is mine...I need a warm up.
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See? Me too! What color scovies do you have? I have to go do their barn for them today. You know...make it purty and all
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. They are all outside playing right now. I will go out and try to get some pictures taken later. Poop duty comes first, after I drive into town to the post office.
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Amiga, thanks for asking! Well it only took 3 days for the vet to finally return my call! I felt good standing up and being professional by telling him I felt I wasted $119 in my bill when in fact all the black dots on the 2 younger ducks are thorns. I got one out but Frank has 2 more spots and Daphne has 2. Lily's foot actually looks like it started to swell again! Dang it! Good news, he won't charge me an office visit and all 3 need to go in because I just can't get the thorns out and Lily just needs that spot opened and cleaned. It's gone on long enough. I'm still thinking the vet will slam me with a high bill though....I just don't trust. I need to find a website that list all first aid meds safe for ducks and a list of safe prescription medications as I know some human meds can be given. I need a drug dosage guide too. Lastly, I was thinking of old remedies my grandmother used on herself or the family to draw out infections, pine resin. Where can I get it and how can I make it myself? I'm sure it's safe for ducks. Where can I find the mentioned info? I think I need to become a pharmacist/alternative medicine self designated specialist. But honestly, I think I would greatly benefit from visiting other duck folks to see how their coop and enclosures or yard looks like. Even examine their ducks just to see what's normal and not. Any volunteers? I'm in VA.
 

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