Sick hybrid and what to do?

[Wyorp Rock]

@Wyorp Rock
@Eggcessive
@coach723
@Bawkbok
I'm attaching the necropsy report for Missy. I hope this can help someone in their quest to save a chicken.

I will post the final report as soon as they send it. Basically it's fatal, right? And if it's transmitted through the E.coli getting in the reproductive tract, can a rooster be the carrier? By the way, I've been looking at posts on BYC that are similar, and it seems there's lots of the same symptoms, except for the sneezing/mucus drainage, and the outcome is usually death. Have you noticed this?

Thank you for posting the report.

I'm glad you were able to find out more.
You're right, there's a lot of posts about Salpingitis here on BYC and you're right again, the outcome is usually death. Whether immediate or down the road, Salpingitis seems to be the condition that a hen is unable to overcome.

It may be worth your looking up the condition and finding some necropsy photos if that's of interest to you. It may help you to understand that even with treatment/antibiotics, the caseous exudes still continue to "multiply" or add layers over time. Medication, supportive care, etc. may help to slow the process and/or if it's in the early stages, some hens may go on to be productive for a period of time, but ultimately, they do succumb to the condition.

It's unfortunate that hens have to suffer through all of these conditions that affect their reproductive system. These conditions are not new; it's just I think people may just be more aware of them now.

I'm very sorry for your loss, I know it can be frustrating to lose a hen, especially when you try so hard to help them out.

 

[RedHillChicken]

Thank you for posting the report.

I'm glad you were able to find out more.
You're right, there's a lot of posts about Salpingitis here on BYC and you're right again, the outcome is usually death. Whether immediate or down the road, Salpingitis seems to be the condition that a hen is unable to overcome.

It may be worth your looking up the condition and finding some necropsy photos if that's of interest to you. It may help you to understand that even with treatment/antibiotics, the caseous exudes still continue to "multiply" or add layers over time. Medication, supportive care, etc. may help to slow the process and/or if it's in the early stages, some hens may go on to be productive for a period of time, but ultimately, they do succumb to the condition.

It's unfortunate that hens have to suffer through all of these conditions that affect their reproductive system. These conditions are not new; it's just I think people may just be more aware of them now.

I'm very sorry for your loss, I know it can be frustrating to lose a hen, especially when you try so hard to help them out.

And just so you'll know, the vet did an x-ray of her before we euthanized her, and there was no sign of egg, egg shell, or remnants of a lash egg inside her reproductive tract. But the necropsy report stated that they found quote:

"The oviduct was markedly distended and contained fibrinocaseous exudate arranged in concentric layers around degenerate egg material."

So, even x-rays sometimes don't show any material in the oviduct. A digital and physical exam did reveal the distended stomach area around the reproductive tract. This could be diagnosed as water belly, which would lead to a false conclusion as to the cause of sickness. I'll post the final report a soon as I receive it.

 

[Bawkbok]

Thank you for the report on Missy. As @coach723 indicated, the red sex links seem to have trouble. We had a Golden Comet, sweetest dang bird we've encountered. After help from the experts (@Eggcessive, @azygous and @Wyorp Rock) we were able to save her from her initial mystery illness after six weeks of treatment. She succumed again and again exhibiting the same symptoms which we would treat with more rounds of antibiotics after each round she would rally back and acted like a normal chicken. It only bought her time. Finally with the most recent round of failing, I decided it was time to end her misery and did a poor job of necropsy myself. I've included a photo of what was in her gut so you can see. The mass was huge; the size of a grapefruit. This was our first experience with EYP / Salpingitis and I will never let another chicken linger for as long as we did our Golden. She was 14 months old and never laid an egg. I still miss her endearing personality. My heart goes out to you.

 

[RedHillChicken]

Thank you for the report on Missy. As @coach723 indicated, the red sex links seem to have trouble. We had a Golden Comet, sweetest dang bird we've encountered. After help from the experts (@Eggcessive, @azygous and @Wyorp Rock) we were able to save her from her initial mystery illness after six weeks of treatment. She succumed again and again exhibiting the same symptoms which we would treat with more rounds of antibiotics after each round she would rally back and acted like a normal chicken. It only bought her time. Finally with the most recent round of failing, I decided it was time to end her misery and did a poor job of necropsy myself. I've included a photo of what was in her gut so you can see. The mass was huge; the size of a grapefruit. This was our first experience with EYP / Salpingitis and I will never let another chicken linger for as long as we did our Golden. She was 14 months old and never laid an egg. I still miss her endearing personality. My heart goes out to you.

Thanks Bawkbok, we have come to the same conclusion as you - let no bird suffer. I'm trying to reach the hurdle of euthanasia with as much gumption as I can muster. Necropsy, well that might take more gumption than I presently possess. I have seen a lot of same types of symptoms on BYC, and I wonder how many are hybrids? Maybe a moderator has data on this.

 

[RedHillChicken]

Thank you for the report on Missy. As @coach723 indicated, the red sex links seem to have trouble. We had a Golden Comet, sweetest dang bird we've encountered. After help from the experts (@Eggcessive, @azygous and @Wyorp Rock) we were able to save her from her initial mystery illness after six weeks of treatment. She succumed again and again exhibiting the same symptoms which we would treat with more rounds of antibiotics after each round she would rally back and acted like a normal chicken. It only bought her time. Finally with the most recent round of failing, I decided it was time to end her misery and did a poor job of necropsy myself. I've included a photo of what was in her gut so you can see. The mass was huge; the size of a grapefruit. This was our first experience with EYP / Salpingitis and I will never let another chicken linger for as long as we did our Golden. She was 14 months old and never laid an egg. I still miss her endearing personality. My heart goes out to you.

I forgot to ask, but did you have an X-ray on her prior to her death? If so, did it show the mass?