Silkie breeding, genetics & showing

[PaintedFeathers]

If you show frizzles, they have to be named as to breed,,,Frizzled featherleg, frizzled clean leg, etc. You need to read the standards of each frizzled breed you have for TYPE, then read about color and frizzling. The Standard is WELL worth the $.

So why does the frizzle have it's own SOP? I have one that is no exact "breed", it is just a frizzle. I have been hearing contradictions as to whether a frizzle is it's own breed or if is a type... Some say breed, some say NO... I love them but man are they difficult!

 

[Sanna]

Well i'm confused... I was just told the SOP is copyrighted and it is llegal to repost any of it's material without consent of the APA

So how does anyone get the SOP for just one breed if we can't afford the book? I have seEn people post the standard for different breeds before. Is it illegal? I am looking for the SOP for frizzles... Can anyone help me or do I have to go and buy the book to find out what I need for one stinking breed??????

So why does the frizzle have it's own SOP? I have one that is no exact "breed", it is just a frizzle. I have been hearing contradictions as to whether a frizzle is it's own breed or if is a type... Some say breed, some say NO... I love them but man are they difficult!

I got my SOP for $35 + shipping. Definitely worth it.
I'd like to know if you can show your girl as just a frizzle? I always thought they have to have a breed and the frizzle is a variety as well as the color. Like, you would show them as cochin bantam frizzle partridge, or whatever the case may be.
I hope someone has an answer to this question!

 

[pattiiz]

This is my 4 1/2 month old silkie Valentina. She has the black skin, blue ears and five toes. She is my first can you tell me what is good and not so good about her. Do you think she is show quality? Can you tell from this phot? Thanks, just trying to learn as much as I can.
Pattii in Napa

 

[Whittni]

It looks like she has a slightly long back but the important thing is that she poses naturally and well. Is she cage trained?

 

[pattiiz]

She is not crate trained. She grazes around our yard with our other silkie and a big Cochin hen. And now two baby sizzles

 

[pattiiz]

They also have a covered 5x16 foot covered coop with and attached hen house

 

[ChickNmamma]

Quote:
You can get the older SOPs for less $$. It is still worth it because it has a lot of information that is still used - it just won't have the updates and changes that were published in the newer editions - and it will be missing birds that were accepted after its publication. If you are planning on showing birds seriously I believe you will need to invest in the current edition. It is like the bible - and you will need to read many sections to get the whole picture - not just the section for the birds you want to show.

I am still not real clear on this but I believe frizzles are shown under the breed (i.e. Bantam Featherleg Partridge Cochin Frizzle) like you said. Any breed can be frizzled - just like other breeds can be silkied (Ameraucanas is one I have heard of). The ones called just Frizzles or Sizzles I think are frizzled Cochins mixed with Silkies - and they haven't been accepted as a "breed" yet so I am unsure they can be shown. They do not have a SOP and they will not have one until they are accepted. Frizzled Silkies (with curled silkied feathers) would be shown under Silkies, then Frizzled and you would go by the guidelines of Silkies for type and DQs, and by Frizzles for the feather characteristics.

 

[Sanna]

You can get the older SOPs for less $$. It is still worth it because it has a lot of information that is still used - it just won't have the updates and changes that were published in the newer editions - and it will be missing birds that were accepted after its publication. If you are planning on showing birds seriously I believe you will need to invest in the current edition. It is like the bible - and you will need to read many sections to get the whole picture - not just the section for the birds you want to show.

I am still not real clear on this but I believe frizzles are shown under the breed (i.e. Bantam Featherleg Partridge Cochin Frizzle) like you said. Any breed can be frizzled - just like other breeds can be silkied (Ameraucanas is one I have heard of). The ones called just Frizzles or Sizzles I think are frizzled Cochins mixed with Silkies - and they haven't been accepted as a "breed" yet so I am unsure they can be shown. They do not have a SOP and they will not have one until they are accepted. Frizzled Silkies (with curled silkied feathers) would be shown under Silkies, then Frizzled and you would go by the guidelines of Silkies for type and DQs, and by Frizzles for the feather characteristics.

I love my SOP, I've learned so much reading it! I'm still reading, and I'll continue reading things over and over until I start memorizing everything better. lol


There's a little blurb about Frizzles in the Judging Instructions. This is what it says:

"It is recommended that all Frizzles be cooped in one area so as to facilitate their judging. There is no Frizzle breed but Frizzles are entered under many breeds including Cochins, Plymouth Rock, Polish, Rhode Island Red and others. The judge shall select the best and reserve from Frizzle of all breeds and then the judge shall select CHAMPION FRIZZLE and RESERVE CHAMPION FRIZZLE. In selecting class champions and reserve champions for "Champion Row" the judge shall consider the Champion Frizzle in the respective class."

As ChickNmamma said, Frizzle is not a breed.
Oh, and this is the 2006 Bantam Standard book that I have.

 

[Lrkel]

Who would you all recommend for true black silkies? Prefer black to black breeding and I would like hatching eggs if possible. I plan to use them to improve my self blues and cuckoos so they need to be exceptional quality stock. Thanks!

 

[PaintedFeathers]

Who would you all recommend for true black silkies? Prefer black to black breeding and I would like hatching eggs if possible. I plan to use them to improve my self blues and cuckoos so they need to be exceptional quality stock. Thanks!

Catdance has some nice blacks