Silkie color genetics chart?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by sweeterdeeter42, May 16, 2011.

  1. Elite Silkies

    Elite Silkies Overrun With Chickens

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    A splash Rooster over a black hen will give you 100% Blue offspring. You will not get B/B/S from that mating. As Sonoran said, it will depend on whether the white is a recessive or a dominant.
     
  2. robin416

    robin416 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Are you referring to the skin pigment when you say black won't display?

    As I'm reading but paints, what about paints? They're supposed to be dom white, definitely have the hackle discoloration and pigment holes in the skin but do have black skin and black spots.
     
  3. sweeterdeeter42

    sweeterdeeter42 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:AWESOME. That would be OK with me!!! I have always favored blue chickens. Not sure why.....
    Im not planning on breeding my silkies for any other reason than for pets, I was just curious what a splash over a white would produce. I kind of hope I grab a can of cherries. [​IMG]
     
  4. tadkerson

    tadkerson Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:The color wheel on the second link contains some older genetic information that has been changed due to newer research.

    e^p (partridge) is now refrerred to as brown or e^b.

    e^Y is recessive not dominant-should be e^y

    there is not a spangle gene Sp- spangling is caused by eb or ER in combination with Db, Ml and Pg

    autosomal barring or transverse penciling is not caused by a single gene Ab but the combination of eb or ER and Db and Pg

    Lg is not correct- lacing is caused by the Pg gene combining with other genes to make double lacing, single lacing and penciling

    Penciling eb Pg

    Black-tail & Single Lacing eb Co Ml Pg

    Laced-tail & Single Lacing ER Co Db Ml Pg

    Double Lacing ey or eWh or eb and Ml Pg

    there is nor sg or recessive black - black chickens can be synthesized using a number of documented and undocumented genes- complicated subject


    There are some problems with the other links also but do not have the time to elaborate.


    Sweeterdeeter 42,

    You can not just make a chart that will show the possible colors produced when crossing birds. The subject is very complicated and can not be simplified to the point of a simple chart.

    Let me give you an example- you would think if you crossed a white bird with a white bird you should get white birds. Usually that is the case but you can cross white birds with white birds and get: blue birds ( andalusian blue), barred birds ( like barred rock) or even red pyle in the offspring. To make predictions, you have to know the genetics of each bird.


    Tim
     
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  5. tadkerson

    tadkerson Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:You would have to know the genotype of the white rooster to make a prediction. Buff is not produced by a single gene but is a combination of several genes so the predication is a bit complicated.

    You will have to do the cross and find out.

    My guess is that the birds will have buff heads and hackles ( mixed with black), with buff and black mixed on the remainder of the body. black wings and tail. You will have a progression from buff to black from the head to the tail. That should be correct if the white rooster is hypostatic black (birchen black under the white).


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  6. Elite Silkies

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    Quote:AWESOME. That would be OK with me!!! I have always favored blue chickens. Not sure why.....
    Im not planning on breeding my silkies for any other reason than for pets, I was just curious what a splash over a white would produce. I kind of hope I grab a can of cherries. [​IMG]

    If the white is recessive I believe the offspring should also be blue with this color mating. If the white is dominant then the offspring would be white.
     
  7. renovationmom

    renovationmom Chillin' With My Peeps

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    This may be a dumb question, but what colors do you breed together to get Splash?
     
  8. Elite Silkies

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    Quote:You can breed splash to splash but with time you will dilute splash markings and they become lighter and lighter. Like this hen:
    [​IMG]

    If you breed blue x blue you will produce darker splash birds like this one.
    [​IMG]
     
  9. renovationmom

    renovationmom Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:You can breed splash to splash but with time you will dilute splash markings and they become lighter and lighter. Like this hen:
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/34583_34583_splash1.jpg

    If you breed blue x blue you will produce darker splash birds like this one.
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/34583_dark_splash1.jpg

    Gorgeous silkies! Thank you so much for the information and photos. I have a few blue chicks, but not splash, so happy to find out I will be able to hatch some splash next spring when these babies are ready.
     
  10. Chicnsrthebest

    Chicnsrthebest Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Since this thread has been started, can someone tell me what colors to breed together to get red?
    I love all silkies, but I really would love to breed reds, and all those charts and technical symbals just get me so mixed up! [​IMG]
     

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