Silkie Experts Silkie genetics qestion

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most Reds are based on eWh(wheaten) Splash are Based on Extended Black(E) Reds have Columbian like restrictors like Co(Columbian) but this just dont work with dominant white or Extended Black Restricted, but the best blues are based on Silver since they dont leak red thrue, you may get some red leakage in form of rustines..(if breed to Splash, No rustines in all Black birds)
 
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It depends on if the white is recessive or dominant. White dominant will give white offspring. White recessive with splash could give blue offspring.
 
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There's no way to tell.

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It's great that you are interested in the genetics, but really, there are no simple answers to most of these questions. All creatures inherit genes from both parents, and the combination of specific genes a bird inherits determines the traits they exhibit. Sometimes they inherit a recessive gene from each parent, and display a trait that neither parent shows; sometimes the mix of genes inherited from each parent interact and create patterns that are not present in the parents. And sometimes they look exactly like one parent or the other.
I suggest you start with some basic chicken genetic information and gradually add to it, bit by bit, gene by gene. This is a good starting place: http://kippenjungle.nl/basisEN.htm#basisEN
 
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Oi, I need an Excederin.

As interested I am in genetics, and read every one of these types of posts, I always go away thinking "these people are brilliant, and I now have a headache."

and PS, I cannot even figure out the kippenjungle calculator, and I fear if someone tried to show me, they would end up strangling me with their own 2 hands.
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There's no way to tell.

x1000

It's great that you are interested in the genetics, but really, there are no simple answers to most of these questions. All creatures inherit genes from both parents, and the combination of specific genes a bird inherits determines the traits they exhibit. Sometimes they inherit a recessive gene from each parent, and display a trait that neither parent shows; sometimes the mix of genes inherited from each parent interact and create patterns that are not present in the parents. And sometimes they look exactly like one parent or the other.
I suggest you start with some basic chicken genetic information and gradually add to it, bit by bit, gene by gene. This is a good starting place: http://kippenjungle.nl/basisEN.htm#basisEN

Keep this paragraph where its handing to pull up and paste when this topic comes up again. Because you know it will. At least it will save you from having to retype the same thing so many times. LOL And I like the way you put it, its one that says a lot without having to go in to the deep, deep genetics mind.
 
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Oi, I need an Excederin.

As interested I am in genetics, and read every one of these types of posts, I always go away thinking "these people are brilliant, and I now have a headache."

and PS, I cannot even figure out the kippenjungle calculator, and I fear if someone tried to show me, they would end up strangling me with their own 2 hands.
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We can meet for coffee some morning when we both have time, and I'll bring my laptop and show you how to work it. It really is easy once you get the hang of it, and it is an amazing tool.

Recessive black is a "gene" debated back and forth, although almost all agree it is not a single gene, but rather a combination of genes or gene helpers. Do a search on "recessive black" at The Coop.

Anyways, part of what Marvin is talking about is the base gene for chickens: the E-alleles. The most dominant is E, or Extended Black, which is the base gene for the darkest best coloured black chickens. In general, E creates a self base (solid coloured chicken), although E based birds do have leakage in the hackles that require melanizers to cover and create an entirely black bird. Next in dominance is E^R, or birchen. This creates a crow-wing patterned bird. Still very black, but with significant leakage on the head and hackles, lacing on the breast, and on males, leakage on the saddle. Next in dominance is E^Wh, wheaten, which severly limits black on females, then e^b, brown or partridge, the base needed for many patterns and lastly e+, wildtype. The males of these last three are very similar in appearance.

The other part is recessive white. White is an OFF switch: it prevents the expression of genes that are present in the bird. But, if you remove a copy, you deactivate the OFF switch, and those genes can express.
 
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There's no way to tell.

x1000

It's great that you are interested in the genetics, but really, there are no simple answers to most of these questions. All creatures inherit genes from both parents, and the combination of specific genes a bird inherits determines the traits they exhibit. Sometimes they inherit a recessive gene from each parent, and display a trait that neither parent shows; sometimes the mix of genes inherited from each parent interact and create patterns that are not present in the parents. And sometimes they look exactly like one parent or the other.
I suggest you start with some basic chicken genetic information and gradually add to it, bit by bit, gene by gene. This is a good starting place: http://kippenjungle.nl/basisEN.htm#basisEN

Keep this paragraph where its handing to pull up and paste when this topic comes up again. Because you know it will. At least it will save you from having to retype the same thing so many times. LOL And I like the way you put it, its one that says a lot without having to go in to the deep, deep genetics mind.

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Thanks
 

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