Silkie thread!

[ScaredOfShadows]

For those commenting about the possible self blue chick, I wanted to add the mother was suppose to be porcelain, but she is very dark. However, she does have lavender in her colors.

Here's the mom.






And here's one of the babies. Not the best light... it's cloudy out.

I don't believe the hen is porcelain I don't see buff in her, she looks like a Lavender Partridge - shes definitely got the partridge characteristics.
Also alot of breeders mix lavender in their blue/splash pens - and so it is very possible the chicks have been passed on 1 dose of lavender - making splits and the one in the picture got a dose from each parent creating a visible lavender.

 

[BarnGoddess01]

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Yep, I'm seeing the genes now ...

 

[SilverSilkie]

Yes, I made the mistake of referring the the Lav gene with all lower case earlier today. It occurred to me whilst driving so I couldn't edit the post.

ok ... so as you just typed it with "lav/lav" (all lower case), is that a cuckoo showing lavender/self-blue?

The Isabel/porcelain/mille fleur stuff TOTALLY confuses me. And then add "lemon" into the mix .... OY!

Always go step by step than it will not confuse.
Yes cuckoo showing lavender/self-blue is a Black E/E with the barring pattern (which is sex-linked so rooster can have 2 dosis = B/B or 1 dosis = B/b+ and hens are B/-) the totality is diluted with the lavender/self-blue gene lav/lav which give the "frosted" cuckoo phenotype.

Isabel and porcelaine both have the lavender/self-blue gene lav/lav but on different groundcolors.
Millefleur is intended when the mottling gene is concerned mo/mo.
Lemon is when the red-pigment diluting gene is concerned ig/ig.

The difference between lavender/self-blue (lav/lav) and lemon (ig/ig) is the gene lavender/self-blue (lav/lav) dilutes at the same time black-pigment and red-pigment, the gene lemon (ig/ig) dilute only red-pigment and do nothing to the black-pigment.

 

[peepblessed]

Thank you! Just saw this reply. So, I have seen some shading in the wing feathers. There is a bit of darker blue throughout them. I keep hoping, splash. I will keep posting pictures every now and again, to see what you all think in coloring, then of course..sex..It's a girl..has to be!

Definitely sounds splash!

 

[peepblessed]

Always go step by step than it will not confuse.
Yes cuckoo showing lavender/self-blue is a Black E/E with the barring pattern (which is sex-linked so rooster can have 2 dosis = B/B or 1 dosis = B/b+ and hens are B/-) the totality is diluted with the lavender/self-blue gene lav/lav which give the "frosted" cuckoo phenotype.

Isabel and porcelaine both have the lavender/self-blue gene lav/lav but on different groundcolors.
Millefleur is intended when the mottling gene is concerned mo/mo.
Lemon is when the red-pigment diluting gene is concerned ig/ig.

The difference between lavender/self-blue (lav/lav) and lemon (ig/ig) is the gene lavender/self-blue (lav/lav) dilutes at the same time black-pigment and red-pigment, the gene lemon (ig/ig) dilute only red-pigment and do nothing to the black-pigment.

My understanding is that my porcelain chicks came from buff lavender cross and breed the chicks back to lavender to get porcelain. How does that fit into this?

 

[Sanna]

I have an egg zipping, there's a small crack on it. The hen that was sitting on it seems to have had enough of sitting on eggs. Her and the other two girls are taking the previously hatched chicks outdoors already and the 5 eggs left are left behind, cold. I'd hate to see this chick that's already trying to come out die! I did put the egg under another hen who doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
BUT! Incase there's no progress with this egg, is there anything I can do to help the chick hatch succesfully? I do not own an incubator. There's gotta be a heat lamp out in the barn somewhere incase of an emergency. I'm hoping just moving the egg under a different hen will do the trick. I did this about an hour ago when I found the egg. I will go check on them again soon and see what's going on.



Oh, I did save a chick this morning! lol I'm very proud of myself.

First one I've saved, ever. The other two that weren't doing so well, I couldn't help. Well, the second one was already dead when I found it.
Anyway, I found this little guy in the coop laying on the floor, face flat in the shavings. I thought it was dead, body was cold and all but it did move, so I rushed him/her in. I put it in a box on a hot water bottle with some towels and kept it warm. In a half an hour it was on it's feet and chirping away like no tomorrow!

The funny(?) thing is that I brought the box & the chick with me out for breakfast.

It was my boyfriends brothers birthday and we all went out for some food. I'm glad I checked on the chickens before we went out. I don't think the chick would have made it if I didn't find it. So, needless to say, we're driving out to get some breakfast and we were warming up the chick in the box. By the time we got to our destination, chick was fine. So I had the box on the table in the restaurant. I wasn't about to leave the poor thing dying somewhere!! lol
Yes, I'm a little out there. lol

 

[BarnGoddess01]

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Sometime I think I should just stick with white!!!

Didn't know that about lemon. Will remember now.

I obviously have to pay more attention to the "ground" colour.

Totally off Silkies but since you seem VERY well versed in colour genetics - does a black from a blue breeding pen weaken a black breeding program? I'm using a Blue Copper Marans cock. Wondering if my Black Coppers that result from that are less worthy (less "black"), so to speak, because of that. (I believe I am working with an ER base with my Marans.)

 

[Breshcandra]

Chick Pictures.....



the one on the right has something wrong with his leg. He can't walk on it and for the most part it sticks out to the side.

is the one in front a lavender? Its a very light grey not white like the splashes.

 

[mama2my4]

Y'all are blowing my mind with all this genetics talk. I just can't understand it....

 

[peepblessed]

Chick Pictures.....



the one on the right has something wrong with his leg. He can't walk on it and for the most part it sticks out to the side.

is the one in front a lavender? Its a very light grey not white like the splashes.

Cute chicks! Here's a picture of my lavender at birth for comparison.