On another note. The pullet I've been trying to tend to stood up today. She was in my lap and it was just after a bath that she stood up. She was leaned against the towel but she still did it. She stood several more times before it was time for her last feeding. She didn't want to feed herself so I tube fed her. Last winter I had a young porcelain cockerel that I had to tube feed. I don't know what was wrong other than he wasn't eating. I fed him for about 2 months before he started feeding himself. He is now a big healthy roo. He may have suffered a brain injury because he still gets off balance, he has never crowed and has no interest in breeding. But he loves babies. So he's great to have in the juvenile pen to look after the youngsters.