Silkie thread!

I can't w/o pulling them out of quarantine, and I'm not comfortable pulling them out quite yet. I'm trying to keep everyone as separate as possible. The pullet I suspect of respiratory issues, appears healthy, no discharge, bright eyes, when she breathes, under her beard puffs up however she keeps her mouth closed, I haven't seen anything quite like it. I suspected gape worm, however her breathing is substantially different than that, unfortunately I don't know how to describe it
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Poor thing, Good luck anyhow!
 
I can't w/o pulling them out of quarantine, and I'm not comfortable pulling them out quite yet. I'm trying to keep everyone as separate as possible. The pullet I suspect of respiratory issues, appears healthy, no discharge, bright eyes, when she breathes, under her beard puffs up however she keeps her mouth closed, I haven't seen anything quite like it. I suspected gape worm, however her breathing is substantially different than that, unfortunately I don't know how to describe it :(

Is she gurgling ? I would be inclined to worm her with something like safeguard. Lice and mites can run them down and lower their immune system.
 
Is she gurgling ? I would be inclined to worm her with something like safeguard. Lice and mites can run them down and lower their immune system.

No gurgling. I was hoping the ivomec and corrid would control pesticides until I feel comfortable treating them with something more suitable. They traveled about 6 hours to get to the swap and was there overnight, and it was terribly dusty and really hot and then traveled 3 hours home, they were all pretty shocked.
 
No gurgling. I was hoping the ivomec and corrid would control pesticides until I feel comfortable treating them with something more suitable. They traveled about 6 hours to get to the swap and was there overnight, and it was terribly dusty and really hot and then traveled 3 hours home, they were all pretty shocked.

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*parasites, auto correct fail
 
No gurgling. I was hoping the ivomec and corrid would control pesticides until I feel comfortable treating them with something more suitable. They traveled about 6 hours to get to the swap and was there overnight, and it was terribly dusty and really hot and then traveled 3 hours home, they were all pretty shocked.

The stress of all that travel and relocating is certainly enough to trigger her upper respiratory problem. The ivomec will treat for any bloodsucking mites but doesn't target lice as they live on the dander not blood. As for internal parasites , the science is that it is not an effective anthelmetic .
The corrid is for cocci and unless they have symptoms , isn't really necessary , it's also a thiamine blocker so don't use it on the wry neck sufferer . Safeguard (Fenbendazole ) or valbazen ( albendazole ) are your best bet for internal parasites.
 
You guys, I just couldn't resist and got two gorgeous pairs at a swap from two different vendors. One pair has been very healthy, normal poos, normal appetite etc. The second pair have had nothing but troubles, so far we've dealt with and began treating: lice, cocci,and scaley leg mites. I've only had them since Saturday so I'm hoping they pull through. I hate keeping the two that are healthier in the same quarantine barn as the other, and I feel terrible keeping them in large dog kennels without turnout. Poor birds:(
I also suspect one to have a bit of a repository issue and the roo may be suffering from awry neck. When kept in his kennel he travels backward and really struggles overall. However when put on the ground for treating etc, he gets around normal. Fingers crossed they I can get everyone healthy and get those pullets to a show!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Silkies are an adorable breed. I'm so sorry to hear of the two that have problems since it tugs at your heart to see any sick bird. It's probably too late now but in future if you get birds from more than once source/breeder, I would've kept the two groups separate even from each other until quarantine was over - even if I had to use the bathtub as an emergency extra kennel. The two sick birds can infect the two healthier birds. You'll have to treat all 4 birds equally to prevent the healthy ones from infection - cocci, worms, lice, etc. I received shipped 2-month juvenile birds with lice before and I treated with Manna Pro Poultry Protector (an organic enzyme - no poisons) and overnight the problem was fixed but I kept up 2 more days of treatment since it was safe to do so. Any new birds I acquire I immediately take fecal samples to the vet the first day to get an overnight diagnosis from him of whether there are worms or cocci and treat accordingly - no use unnecessarily treating unless you get a positive diagnosis. As for wry neck I've never had an issue and bow to the knowledge of owners/breeders more experienced in this area.
 
The stress of all that travel and relocating is certainly enough to trigger her upper respiratory problem. The ivomec will treat for any bloodsucking mites but doesn't target lice as they live on the dander not blood. As for internal parasites , the science is that it is not an effective anthelmetic .
The corrid is for cocci and unless they have symptoms , isn't really necessary , it's also a thiamine blocker so don't use it on the wry neck sufferer . Safeguard (Fenbendazole ) or valbazen ( albendazole ) are your best bet for internal parasites.


Unfortunately the roo with awry neck had a bloody/mucousy stool so I had to treat him with corrid. He was also the one I found with large quantities of lice as well as the mites. So he has been bathed with flea and tick shampoo, with a combination of DE, and ivomec. As well as the hen purchased from the same breeder, although other than the breathing seems to be in a lot better health.
As for the quarantine, each pair was hauled separately one in the cab and one in the covered box, to avoid as little contact as possible during the trip. And upon arrival they were all placed in separate pens and the pairs were divided on opposite sides of our quarantine barn, unfortunately that is the best our circumstances allow. Although I would love to pull the seemingly healthy birds out I'm just not comfortable doing so yet as they were only purchased this weekend.
I have, however, treated all the new birds to error on the safe side. And they have been given vitamins and electrolytes, and hand fed baby food as the the pair with cocci aren't eating. I haven't given any additional thiamine besides what is provided from their vitamins but can if you deem it necessary.
 
Unfortunately the roo with awry neck had a bloody/mucousy stool so I had to treat him with corrid. He was also the one I found with large quantities of lice as well as the mites. So he has been bathed with flea and tick shampoo, with a combination of DE, and ivomec. As well as the hen purchased from the same breeder, although other than the breathing seems to be in a lot better health.
As for the quarantine, each pair was hauled separately one in the cab and one in the covered box, to avoid as little contact as possible during the trip. And upon arrival they were all placed in separate pens and the pairs were divided on opposite sides of our quarantine barn, unfortunately that is the best our circumstances allow. Although I would love to pull the seemingly healthy birds out I'm just not comfortable doing so yet as they were only purchased this weekend.
I have, however, treated all the new birds to error on the safe side. And they have been given vitamins and electrolytes, and hand fed baby food as the the pair with cocci aren't eating. I haven't given any additional thiamine besides what is provided from their vitamins but can if you deem it necessary.

Flea and tick shampoo can be very toxic to chickens, better to dust them or spray with a pyrethrum based product, I personally have no faith in DE, but each to their own. If you are treating with corrid you should cease the vitamins, one cancels out the other. I would consider changing from corrid to sulfadimethoxine -Albion at least then you won't be further suppressing the thiamine levels.

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