Silkie thread!

[sager:)silkies]

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ty so much for the help so if the black silkie has chicks they will be white thats weird

When the black chicks (C+/c = carrier of 1 allel recessive white) of you first cross Black X white will be crossed with each other they wil give +- 25% white chicks next to blacks and partridges (gold).

holy sorry i jus started this breeding stuff so most of that i dont understand but it sounds like when the black chicks from the white and black parents have baby 25% of them come out white and the rest black plzz dont get mad that i dont understand

 

[SilverSilkie]

sagersilkies :

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When the black chicks (C+/c = carrier of 1 allel recessive white) of you first cross Black X white will be crossed with each other they wil give +- 25% white chicks next to blacks and partridges (gold).

holy sorry i jus started this breeding stuff so most of that i dont understand but it sounds like when the black chicks from the white and black parents have baby 25% of them come out white and the rest black plzz dont get mad that i dont understand​

Exactely

 

[Shayna]

sagersilkies :

holy sorry i jus started this breeding stuff so most of that i dont understand but it sounds like when the black chicks from the white and black parents have baby 25% of them come out white and the rest black plzz dont get mad that i dont understand

The color trait genetics are very confusing to me too. I am always trying to learn more so I'm reading everything I can to try to make sense of it. I understand where you're coming from. That said, I would not experiment with mixing colors without understanding what will bring. You will likely end up losing the good qualities in the silkies you have - not strenghtening them. As someone already said, the black cockerels may grow up to show leakage of other color in the hackles, which many breeders have worked so hard to breed out. If you want to keep a mixed flock, I would use the eggs for something other than hatching.​

 

[sager:)silkies]

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holy sorry i jus started this breeding stuff so most of that i dont understand but it sounds like when the black chicks from the white and black parents have baby 25% of them come out white and the rest black plzz dont get mad that i dont understand

Exactely

ya ty so much i learned something new but what if my silkie happens to be dominant white the chicks are all white

 

[sager:)silkies]

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The color trait genetics are very confusing to me too. I am always trying to learn more so I'm reading everything I can to try to make sense of it. I understand where you're coming from. That said, I would not experiment with mixing colors without understanding what will bring. You will likely end up losing the good qualities in the silkies you have - not strenghtening them. As someone already said, the black cockerels may grow up to show leakage of other color in the hackles, which many breeders have worked so hard to breed out. If you want to keep a mixed flock, I would use the eggs for something other than hatching.

no its cause i only have 1 black silkie hen and want more without haveing to by them

 

[ScaredOfShadows]

sagersilkies :

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The color trait genetics are very confusing to me too. I am always trying to learn more so I'm reading everything I can to try to make sense of it. I understand where you're coming from. That said, I would not experiment with mixing colors without understanding what will bring. You will likely end up losing the good qualities in the silkies you have - not strenghtening them. As someone already said, the black cockerels may grow up to show leakage of other color in the hackles, which many breeders have worked so hard to breed out. If you want to keep a mixed flock, I would use the eggs for something other than hatching.

no its cause i only have 1 black silkie hen and want more without haveing to by them​

Honestly with blacks I would NOT breed with any other color but black - if your aiming to get black offspring. If you were doing a BBS pen, thats different, but if your aim is good black offspring only breed black to black.

 

[sager:)silkies]

i just looking to get pet quailty blacks dont care if there sq
i already have sq blacks and there in there trio and dont want to break them up im sure u understand

 

[SilverSilkie]

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The color trait genetics are very confusing to me too. I am always trying to learn more so I'm reading everything I can to try to make sense of it. I understand where you're coming from. That said, I would not experiment with mixing colors without understanding what will bring. You will likely end up losing the good qualities in the silkies you have - not strenghtening them. As someone already said, the black cockerels may grow up to show leakage of other color in the hackles, which many breeders have worked so hard to breed out. If you want to keep a mixed flock, I would use the eggs for something other than hatching.

The basic color-genetics is not really so difficult to understand.
There only 2 color-pigments, black and red and the absence of both = white.
There are only 5 ground-colors.
All five are based on gold or on Silver. Since this is sex-linked there are 5 (ground-colors) X 3 based on possibilities for male => s+/s+ (=gold based) or S/S (=Silver based) or S/s+ (=Golden based). for females this is more simple they can be only 5 (ground-color) X 2 based on possibilities => s+/- (gold based) or S/- (Silver based).
There are only 18 genes to count with (our alphabeth count 26) and there are only a few rules to know as Dominant genes (always with a with Capital => E) and recessive genes (always written with a normal letter => eb).
Keep in mind sexual reproduction as need for every gene 1 allel from papa and 1 allel from mama to come together in a new gene. All genes together give a new subject. Color-genes are only a little part of the totality.
After comes in some more "fine-tuning" knowledge but for the basics this was you have to know.

All started with G.J.Mendel (1822-1884)

 

[SilverSilkie]

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The color trait genetics are very confusing to me too. I am always trying to learn more so I'm reading everything I can to try to make sense of it. I understand where you're coming from. That said, I would not experiment with mixing colors without understanding what will bring. You will likely end up losing the good qualities in the silkies you have - not strenghtening them. As someone already said, the black cockerels may grow up to show leakage of other color in the hackles, which many breeders have worked so hard to breed out. If you want to keep a mixed flock, I would use the eggs for something other than hatching.

The basic color-genetics is not really so difficult to understand.
There only 2 color-pigments, black and red and the absence of both = white.
There are only 5 ground-colors.
All five are based on gold or on Silver. Since this is sex-linked there are 5 (ground-colors) X 3 based on possibilities for male => s+/s+ (=gold based) or S/S (=Silver based) or S/s+ (=Golden based). for females this is more simple they can be only 5 (ground-color) X 2 based on possibilities => s+/- (gold based) or S/- (Silver based).
There are only 18 genes to count with (our alphabeth count 26) and there are only a few rules to know as Dominant genes (always with a with Capital => E) and recessive genes (always written with a normal letter => eb).
Keep in mind sexual reproduction have need for every gene 1 allel from papa and 1 allel from mama to come together in a new gene. All genes together give a new subject. Color-genes are only a little part of the totality.
After comes in some more "fine-tuning" knowledge but for the basics this was you have to know.

All started with G.J.Mendel (1822-1884)

 

[peepblessed]

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The color trait genetics are very confusing to me too. I am always trying to learn more so I'm reading everything I can to try to make sense of it. I understand where you're coming from. That said, I would not experiment with mixing colors without understanding what will bring. You will likely end up losing the good qualities in the silkies you have - not strenghtening them. As someone already said, the black cockerels may grow up to show leakage of other color in the hackles, which many breeders have worked so hard to breed out. If you want to keep a mixed flock, I would use the eggs for something other than hatching.

The basic color-genetics is not really so difficult to understand.
There only 2 color-pigments, black and red and the absence of both = white.
There are only 5 ground-colors.
All five are based on gold or on Silver. Since this is sex-linked there are 5 (ground-colors) X 3 based on possibilities for male => s+/s+ (=gold based) or S/S (=Silver based) or S/s+ (=Golden based). for females this is more simple they can be only 5 (ground-color) X 2 based on possibilities => s+/- (gold based) or S/- (Silver based).
There are only 18 genes to count with (our alphabeth count 26) and there are only a few rules to know as Dominant genes (always with a with Capital => E) and recessive genes (always written with a normal letter => eb).
Keep in mind sexual reproduction as need for every gene 1 allel from papa and 1 allel from mama to come together in a new gene. All genes together give a new subject. Color-genes are only a little part of the totality.
After comes in some more "fine-tuning" knowledge but for the basics this was you have to know.

All started with G.J.Mendel (1822-1884)

I'm adding this to my chicken notes. Thanks!