Silkie thread!

[ChickensXOXO]

OMG-- so excited!!! Beth-- Peepblessed-- the AI worked!!

I was having a heck of a time getting anything to come out at all. So I kept him in a separate pen for 2 days and tried again and he filled up half the spoon!!! YAY!! Babies will be coming soon!!!

Whew, all that angst and finally now I wish I had done this weeks earlier! It wasn't as hard as I thought! I just didn't have the right conditions at all! Now I wait for eggs to be laid....

Congratulations on a job well done!

Hope get you babies from him soon.

 

[Country Chickens]

Yeah, I realize that. It's supposed to help prevent coccidiosis(sp?), isn't it? But, I think I remember (from a poultry conference I attended this past weekend) that the new form of amprolium which can be used in higher concentration in water is handled like any other drug. This makes me suspect it could be having a side effect somewhere, even if it's just in small doses of feed. But, I honestly don't know nearly enough about it to make a firm statement on it!


The hen did well in her bath today. After she was all dry and fluffy I put her back with her roo, and we'll just see! They definitely may also be still adjusting, too. It's only been about a month...though it feels longer!

You do realize that medicated feed does not normally contain antibiotics? It contains amprolium, which could be considered in terms of being a vitamin (or more correctly, a specific anti-vitamin)

 

[Country Chickens]

Congrats! Super congrats, in fact!

Given my own silkie's feritility issues, I have been following this with interest and wondering how it would work out. You've given me hope and courage not to wait too long!

OMG-- so excited!!! Beth-- Peepblessed-- the AI worked!!

I was having a heck of a time getting anything to come out at all. So I kept him in a separate pen for 2 days and tried again and he filled up half the spoon!!! YAY!! Babies will be coming soon!!!

Whew, all that angst and finally now I wish I had done this weeks earlier! It wasn't as hard as I thought! I just didn't have the right conditions at all! Now I wait for eggs to be laid....

 

[sager:)silkies]

OMG-- so excited!!! Beth-- Peepblessed-- the AI worked!!

I was having a heck of a time getting anything to come out at all. So I kept him in a separate pen for 2 days and tried again and he filled up half the spoon!!! YAY!! Babies will be coming soon!!!

Whew, all that angst and finally now I wish I had done this weeks earlier! It wasn't as hard as I thought! I just didn't have the right conditions at all! Now I wait for eggs to be laid....

hope u get ur babies soon

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Yeah, I realize that. It's supposed to help prevent coccidiosis(sp?), isn't it? But, I think I remember (from a poultry conference I attended this past weekend) that the new form of amprolium which can be used in higher concentration in water is handled like any other drug. This makes me suspect it could be having a side effect somewhere, even if it's just in small doses of feed. But, I honestly don't know nearly enough about it to make a firm statement on it!


The hen did well in her bath today. After she was all dry and fluffy I put her back with her roo, and we'll just see! They definitely may also be still adjusting, too. It's only been about a month...though it feels longer!

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Well, basically EVERYTHING (even water) can have side effects. Amprollium mixed in water is not a new form, it is just the form that is used for treatment versus the form used to boost immunity.

Coccidia need thiamine to reproduce. Amprollium is a thiamine blocker. In a prophalactic (preventative) dose, the coccidia can reproduce to a small extent, but not enough to completely overwhelm chicks. Allowing a small amount of coccidia to exist allows the chick to build its own immunity to them. Tests have shown that re-introducing thiamine blocker on a regular interval in adult birds helps keep their immunity high. Note that this is not the same as being completely immune to coccidia; it is that the body can and does fight it, and the chances of a case getting out of hand are lessened.

In a treatment dose, the amprollium prevents all coccidia reproduction. The Merck Veterinary Manual can give you a lot more details. merckvetmanual.com

 

[Country Chickens]

Huh, the lecturing vet made it sound new--but maybe he was speaking of a new brand, or meant that it was 'relatively' new. That, or he didn't know chickens as well as he wanted to believe! I say that because he also didn't explain that it was meant to be preventative, the way he described it sounded like a treatment after infection. I suppose it would still help, then?

All kinds of interesting stuff, anyway. I've had birds (chickens/quail/pheasants) much of my life, but confess that it wasn't until we got silkies that I felt the need to dig a little deeper into the workings of the poultry world. Up til now, I've gotten by on never crowding and a few basic husbandry care points like that. But, silkies bring out the researcher in me! Thanks for the info, and the website!

Well, basically EVERYTHING (even water) can have side effects. Amprollium mixed in water is not a new form, it is just the form that is used for treatment versus the form used to boost immunity.

Coccidia need thiamine to reproduce. Amprollium is a thiamine blocker. In a prophalactic (preventative) dose, the coccidia can reproduce to a small extent, but not enough to completely overwhelm chicks. Allowing a small amount of coccidia to exist allows the chick to build its own immunity to them. Tests have shown that re-introducing thiamine blocker on a regular interval in adult birds helps keep their immunity high. Note that this is not the same as being completely immune to coccidia; it is that the body can and does fight it, and the chances of a case getting out of hand are lessened.

In a treatment dose, the amprollium prevents all coccidia reproduction. The Merck Veterinary Manual can give you a lot more details. merckvetmanual.com

 

[Hawkeye95]

Congratulations on a job well done!

Hope get you babies from him soon.

Thank you!! me too!


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Congrats! Super congrats, in fact!

Given my own silkie's feritility issues, I have been following this with interest and wondering how it would work out. You've given me hope and courage not to wait too long!

OH yes, it wasn't as bad as I thought. I did try it twice with NO success, though. The trick (someone suggested on BYC) was that he needed to be separated from the girls for a day or two and keep him separated as long as I'm trying it. I was getting nothing to come out at all! After separating him-- no problems!! Super easy! And the spoon really does work great. I just used a plastic disposable spoon and washed it before hand (even though it was new).

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hope u get ur babies soon

Oh trust me-- I'm going to be an incubating fool as soon as I get eggs! LOL Thanks!

 

[chisNchickens]

Woo-hoo Hawkeye....so happy for you. I have a feeling I have AI in the near future. Well, my cockerel, not me.

 

[chisNchickens]

I just prefer natural immunity if possible, and so far I have not had any issues with the birds. I have experience with coccidia in dogs, and it is nothing to fool around with
that is for certain. Which is why I will only treat if necessary (no prevention drugs and amprolium is an antibiotic/drug). I have also used GSE mixed in cold-pressed castor oil successfully.

You do realize that medicated feed does not normally contain antibiotics? It contains amprolium, which could be considered in terms of being a vitamin (or more correctly, a specific anti-vitamin)

 

[yoie]

Ok another try at the color of this silkie! I kept thinking it might be a splash but now it has orange coming in on its chest and back, but has blue/white splash markings on its wings

It is almost 3 weeks old now and feathers are coming in really pretty, keeping it no matter what. Any ideas? Oh, and the purple dot on the head is from me marking it so I wouldn't sell by accident.