Silkies Of A Different Color

[roocrazy]

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Tort is often just a name given to mis-colored greys with silver in the hackles and red leakage on the shoulders. Its one of those pain in the butt problems that once you get it in your greys, its hard to get rid of (esp on the males). People are trying to market them as Tort/Tortoise to sell their PQ culls that way. Its the same as many people selling their mis-colored splashes with red leakage as Calicos or the blacks with alot of silver in the hackles as Birchen. I've also seen people trying to sell their gold hackled blacks as dark partridge. You might get them by accident, but not really something people are working to breed for.

oh thank you amy. i saw a picture on feathersite and it matched my roo dead on. So its a bad thing?


thanks again
roo

 

[Kat's Silly Chickens]

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Sonoran you said he, you can tell at 9 weeks that mine is a roo, how?
The coloring on the top of Cinnabar's top hat head is burnt orange with a small amount of golden orange mixed in. Are they Buff coloring then?

 

[Bat Cave Silkies]

Kat~~~she can tell it's a "he" by his comb, and the direction his crest is growing in

 

[destiny_56085]

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Tort is often just a name given to mis-colored greys with silver in the hackles and red leakage on the shoulders. Its one of those pain in the butt problems that once you get it in your greys, its hard to get rid of (esp on the males). People are trying to market them as Tort/Tortoise to sell their PQ culls that way. Its the same as many people selling their mis-colored splashes with red leakage as Calicos or the blacks with alot of silver in the hackles as Birchen. I've also seen people trying to sell their gold hackled blacks as dark partridge. You might get them by accident, but not really something people are working to breed for.

oh thank you amy. i saw a picture on feathersite and it matched my roo dead on. So its a bad thing?


thanks again
roo

If you want just funky colored backyard pets, its fine. If you plan on showing, just remember that they will be AOV only. They are not acceptable for 4-H. They don't fit any of the APA/ABA requirements for any of the approved color standards and a judge will recognize that. If you do breed them to any of your other birds, that red leakage will haunt you for generations. You are then looking at a limited market of pet quality buyers. Personally I don't have the time, money, or space to raise out those $5-10 birds anymore.

Btw.... I'm not trying to knock those who have serious color projects going on. If you take the proper steps to plan breedings, get the number of breeders together, get the birds producing with uniformity in offspring, and do the actual paperwork to get it approved as a known variety.... its one thing. What I don't agree with is all the ones taking their mis-color culls and trying to give them fancy names. A black with gold or silver in the hackles is not a birchen or dark partridge. A splash or grey with red leakage are not calicos or torts. A bird that is a very light shade of grey is not necessarily columbian. A buff with lots of smut in the tail and primaries is nothing more than that.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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How'd you manage getting the CHOC gene in your Silkies?

Dun, not choc. THe hobby name for one copy of dun is chocolate; two copies is khaki.

Hobby names are derived from appearance, not genetic makeup.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Didnt you bring a khaki silkie to the show Thanksgiving weekend? that bird was SO pretty!
Personally, i like the paint silkies.

Yes, he was there, too. He is WAY too young to show, but getting feedback is important to me, and what better way than to show your birds? If I waited until he was old enough, it would be spring 2011, and there are no shows...so now or wait for a whole year.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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At 9 weeks, a comb htat huge has got to be a "him."

 

[Kat's Silly Chickens]

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At 9 weeks, a comb htat huge has got to be a "him."

Blaze is the same age can you tell by this pic of it?

I think Blaze's is even larger than Cinnabar's

Here's a pic with Blaze and Cinnabar's head will that help?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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oh thank you amy. i saw a picture on feathersite and it matched my roo dead on. So its a bad thing?


thanks again
roo

If you want just funky colored backyard pets, its fine. If you plan on showing, just remember that they will be AOV only. They are not acceptable for 4-H. They don't fit any of the APA/ABA requirements for any of the approved color standards and a judge will recognize that. If you do breed them to any of your other birds, that red leakage will haunt you for generations. You are then looking at a limited market of pet quality buyers. Personally I don't have the time, money, or space to raise out those $5-10 birds anymore.

Btw.... I'm not trying to knock those who have serious color projects going on. If you take the proper steps to plan breedings, get the number of breeders together, get the birds producing with uniformity in offspring, and do the actual paperwork to get it approved as a known variety.... its one thing. What I don't agree with is all the ones taking their mis-color culls and trying to give them fancy names. A black with gold or silver in the hackles is not a birchen or dark partridge. A splash or grey with red leakage are not calicos or torts. A bird that is a very light shade of grey is not necessarily columbian. A buff with lots of smut in the tail and primaries is nothing more than that.

I agree, but will add that you can take those birds and breed and breed (and it may take years) and by selection acquire uniformity. I have serious projects and ones where I simply let them do their thing once I select breeding groups. I fret over the serious projects and not the casual ones, and darned if sometimes the casual ones don't out-perform the serious ones. But sometimes not.

 

[Kat's Silly Chickens]

Kat's Silly Chickens :

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At 9 weeks, a comb htat huge has got to be a "him."

Blaze is the same age can you tell by this pic of it?

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/67650_sunshinesultanrooster_and_blazesilkie121410.jpg
I think Blaze's is even larger than Cinnabar's

Here's a pic with Blaze and Cinnabar's head will that help?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/67650_blaze120810.jpg​

Oh, Sonoran I just took a close look at both Blaze-Blue Silkie and Cinnabar-Buff and Blaze's comb is at least twice the size of Cinnabar's and looks more like a walnut.