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Six or more years since I last hatched... thought I had it together better... haha

FenDruadin

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Jul 30, 2009
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For many reasons, I haven't hatched or raised fowl since around 2013. But Coronavirus has got me thinking it's time to take control of food supply again. Get some chickens again, and expand my very tiny quail flock.

Only trouble is, everybody else has got the same idea, and all the chicks everywhere and the fertile eggs are all sold out.

So I reached out to a friend I knew had supplies, and it turns out I had "loaned" her my incubator (Hovabator, oh, good old hovabator) way back when. Because I never expected to incubate again, I had flippantly told her it was a "loan" but to just keep it until I asked for it back, thinking I would never ask for it back. Then I forgot all about it. Turns out, she had not forgotten, and gave it back to me, along with 24 hatching eggs (mixed breed, mostly multi-purpose birds including lots of orpington, which makes me happy).

I had nine quail eggs from my tiny flock, and I tossed those in, too (I KNOW I KNOW IT'S NOT THE THING TO DO I'm a rebel).

Then I just kind of ignored it, what with panic attacks and never going 10 minutes without checking my temperature and/or decontaminating something in the house and all.

I did sort of keep track of time but guess what? I remembered EVERYTHING WRONG. I thought quail eggs would hatch in 19 days, so I put them in on day 2 so they'd come out at the same time as the chickens (I KNOW IT'S NOT THE THING ONE DOES).

Anywho. Turns out quail hatch in 17 days, not 19, which once upon a time I knew but my brain is mostly made of swiss cheese.

SURPRISE. Day 17, there's a baby in the incubator. Then a few more.

So I scrambled to set up their brooder. Did you know that a brood lamp, when left to rot for seven years in a shed, is not technically a reliable source of heat for a brooder? That, in fact, when you go to set it up, there's a more than 50% chance you may electrocute yourself? If you're lucky, however, you won't burn down your house and you might have a bedside lamp that can serve in a pinch if you can find an incandescent bulb that doesn't fall apart in your hands.

The upshot of all of which is that we have an extremely spoiled quail who spent the entire first day of her life being carried around for warmth and, now that she's in the brooder I finally managed to cobble together without destroying anything other than my sanity, cannot sleep without someone holding her. She stands in the middle of the brooder, while her brothers and sisters peacefully doze in the warm corner, and cries until someone picks her up and cuddles her. This is a problem I am out of spoons to solve. "Quail cuddler" is now a full-time position in our family, which position we take turns filling.

So, anyway. There are three more quail eggs in the bator that may or may not hatch and, speaking of spoons, I have none left to worry about whether they'll hatch. Tomorrow I have to take out all the mechanical stuff and lock the darn thing down for the chickens, and I'll just lock whichever quail eggs are left down right with them. They'll hatch or they won't (if they do hatch, it'll be before the chickens, so I can whisk them away to safety, a blessing of having miscalculated their hatch date).

And now I have to solve the problem of a lamp for the chickens because WHY DID IT NOT OCCUR TO ME THAT I WOULD NEED TWO SOURCES OF HEAT, NOT JUST ONE. And also, all my old heat bulbs blew up on me. I ordered something from Amazon and that order is now racing against the speed at which my eggs hatch.

Did I mention how I pulled a (wooden, upright) brooder out of the shed also, and it was so full of roaches that there were still roaches coming out of it after I scrubbed it down, sprayed it down, sprayed it with bleach solution, sprayed it with roach spray, and dumped an entire container of boric acid into every crevice? If I had not discovered this fact BEFORE I brought the brooder in the house, I would currently be sorry that I had NOT burned the house down with the faulty brood lamp.

Anyway, I forgot how many accessories like waterers and feeders I would need.

But, good news: There was a pack of chicken nipples, tightly sealed in plastic, in the roach-infested brooder. Thanks to Coronavirus, I am a master at decontamination, so those chicken nipples are MINE ALL MINE and my quail have a waterer.

In other good news: 22 eggs were alive and well at last candling. I'll candle again tonight and toss any dead ones before lockdown tomorrow. In bad news: 22 chicks is wayyy more than I have capacity for and so I may be scrambling again in a couple days.

In short, I'm a hot mess but babbbiiieeeeesssssss
 

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Wow, lol! That was a fun read! I'm happy for you that you are getting back into birds. Roaches are so nasty, that would have been awful if you brought them inside. Yuck! If you have a heating pad you can construct a MHP (mama heating pad, instructions in an article by Blooie) until the lamps arrive. Now you just need some ducks, and you'll be all set! Just enabling... lol. Looking forward to more baby pics in a couple days!
 
Wow, lol! That was a fun read! I'm happy for you that you are getting back into birds. Roaches are so nasty, that would have been awful if you brought them inside. Yuck! If you have a heating pad you can construct a MHP (mama heating pad, instructions in an article by Blooie) until the lamps arrive. Now you just need some ducks, and you'll be all set! Just enabling... lol. Looking forward to more baby pics in a couple days!

Thank you!!! I will look up the mama heating pad instructions. I currently have one under the plastic brooder bin, because the 40-watt lamp I was finally able to patch together was not warm enough. Together, they seem to do the job fine, but I can use all the help I can get.

Also, coconut oil is now a thing? For helping stuck chicks? This is new to me. I have so much to catch up on.
 
Thank you!!! I will look up the mama heating pad instructions. I currently have one under the plastic brooder bin, because the 40-watt lamp I was finally able to patch together was not warm enough. Together, they seem to do the job fine, but I can use all the help I can get.

Also, coconut oil is now a thing? For helping stuck chicks? This is new to me. I have so much to catch up on.
Do you currently have any stuck chicks? I like to be very hands on with my hatches and assist if there are any issues. I dislike the whole "let the fittest survive" idea. When they are in an artificial setting and they have problems, I count it as my job to fix it since I may have caused it. I assist any eggs that have not made progress since the external pip in 24 hours. I follow Sally Sunshine's guide to assisted hatching for all poultry. I would post some links but I can't figure out how to on the laptop, lol. Oil helps moisten the membrane on shrink-wrapped chicks. If you have any issues feel free to ask. It's what we're here for. Hot water bottles put inside of a sock work in a pinch if you can refill them every hour.
 
I don't have any stuck chicks right now! I used to hatch a lot, so I know all the old (six years ago or more) tactics, but coconut oil is a new one on me. I've had exceptionally good luck avoiding stuck chicks by maintaining good temp, humidity, and other protocol in the incubator during incubation and hatching, and have very rarely had to assist. I agree that when we incubate artificially, our responsibility is stronger than just "oh, it's mother nature!" :)
 
I don't have any stuck chicks right now! I used to hatch a lot, so I know all the old (six years ago or more) tactics, but coconut oil is a new one on me. I've had exceptionally good luck avoiding stuck chicks by maintaining good temp, humidity, and other protocol in the incubator during incubation and hatching, and have very rarely had to assist. I agree that when we incubate artificially, our responsibility is stronger than just "oh, it's mother nature!" :)
That's good. I have never personally used oil, but lots of people mention it now. I rarely have to assist too, but I hatch some more expensive eggs, (shipped eggs, and people bring me eggs to hatch. They pay me $5 for each one I hatch, so I pay very close attention, lol.) so I am definitely very attentive to them. I candle a lot too, I just can't help it. It really has helped me learn about what to look for in an egg, I can tell how old it is just by candling them. I have heard so many people say that they don't ever assist, if it doesn't hatch it was not destined to live or would die anyway. I have several very special rescues that are some of my best birds. They wouldn't be here if I didn't help them. I even incubated some cracked shipped bobwhite quail eggs. I patched them with nail polish upon arrival. I had to assist them both, but they are such pretty and perfect hens now, they are supposed to lay any day now.
 
Wow, cool! I have only ever hatched local eggs, and never anything difficult. Quail, ducks, chickens, and geese are all I've done, and only fairly common and easy-to-hatch breeds.

I also learn a TON from candling. I used to mark the air cell at certain set days, and learned so much from watching them grow. I believe in helping out where I can. When some living being right in front of me is suffering, I do the best I can to assist. Including eggs in the bator that are struggling.

This hatch I've been pretty hands-off because we're juggling so much right now with the pandemic situation and I haven't had the bandwidth. But I definitely pay attention and will do the best I can to get as many babies out into the world as I can.
 

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