Slate Tuxedo Jap?

[LyrebirdJacki]

Did you breed that one? If so, what colors did you breed together? He's beautiful!

It's parents are just two regular tuxedos. I get all sorts of colours from them but mainly just normal tux's.

 

[dc3085]

I would suggest putting your tuxedo mutation across an A&M. Crossing it with another tuxedo you may lose that color. Remember whenever you have a mutation that new colors can start from one bird. All the silver coturnix originated from one bird in Belgium in the 1970s.

On another note I wish you people would stop putting up pictures of your beautiful silver quail which we in the US do not have access to lol.

 

[dc3085]

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[LyrebirdJacki]

I would suggest putting your tuxedo mutation across an A&M. Crossing it with another tuxedo you may lose that color. Remember whenever you have a mutation that new colors can start from one bird. All the silver coturnix originated from one bird in Belgium in the 1970s.

On another note I wish you people would stop putting up pictures of your beautiful silver quail which we in the US do not have access to lol.

A baby from the "mottled" tux in the first picture. She gave me 5 all varying from a very pale grey to a darker grey but all tuxedos. Not one looking like her at all. She was mated with an A&M like you said and I got something totally different but no less desirable!! Second batch I did from her was with a regular tux and I only got one silver tuxedo and all the rest of her eggs were regular tuxedos.

 

[LyrebirdJacki]

Hi,

I must say this is really a nice "mutation"

I would say it would be called either a splash or mottled and should be bred from to hopefully produce more of this colour.

I would also say, the colour is the same as the mother, but having a good mixture of white feathers it looks lighter.

Do these birds go a lot darker like their mother? or do they retain some white feathers?

Ironsun.

This is her fully grown and laying eggs. I've already gotten another generation at adult stage (not yet laying though) and they came out a totally different colour altogether; so I haven't even gotten another like her. Her chicks come out as silver tuxedos.

 

[Classroom Quail]

*stares at pictures* Wow, pretty birds!

 

[ohiogoatgirl]

Dustin off this thread... i am new to quail but i was wondering if/how people handle linebreeding with coturnix to breed in new colors/mutations. Like why not take those pretty silvers and put one of her sons thats best with her to try for more silvers or more the shade you are wanting? Or brother-sister or father-daughter? Then cross those to the best of another group?

 

[LyrebirdJacki]

Dustin off this thread... i am new to quail but i was wondering if/how people handle linebreeding with coturnix to breed in new colors/mutations. Like why not take those pretty silvers and put one of her sons thats best with her to try for more silvers or more the shade you are wanting? Or brother-sister or father-daughter? Then cross those to the best of another group?

I do not line-breed for the risks of deformaties purely. I'd rather be content with what I have than even try for the sake of something coming out disabled. Some people do this and have no problems which is ok but I have seen some not so pretty outcomes such as birds that sponteneously walk backwards, while shifting their heads left and right. I got some birds that did that from a local market and looked up the cause, as I had never seen such behaviour before and found out it is caused from in-breeding. Pheasants and quails exhibit this.

However I have been getting a large ratio of silver tuxedos from her, and a nice rusty cinnamon tuxedo. Some of her offspring lately show pattern like her, but not the same. I am happy with her mixed bundle. Also varying the fathers are giving me lovely results as well.

But we can look at it as all coloured quails are line-bred. Because how did they start off the colour? You get two white birds? Breed them together to get more and to bring in the dominant gene of white. But it helps that after the colour is established to breed it with new stock even if it isn't the same colour, just to help the birds out in the future

If I was breeding them for profit or on a gamebird farm, yeah I would. But I am just a small time backyard enthusist in a shallow quail community. Most locals actually prefer the texas A&M's for their appearance and eating qualities so don't really sell well for tuxedos anyway

 

[ohiogoatgirl]

Hm.. i will keep that in mind when i start hatching out.

I am.coming from thinkin for rabbit breeding so.. ya.. lol
If there was the time and space and money... lol.. it would be cool to do like if ya bred her to 5 unrelated roos. Hatch em so you can know the group of chicks are from which roo. Then like the best roo from each bunch and the best few hens from each bunch. Then something like hens from roo1 with best roo from roo3.. hens from roo2 with best roo from roo 4.. etc etc like so.

Lol if only there was a never ending barrel of feed and a decent barn full of pens!
Hahaha and look at me with breeding ideas and i havent even picked up my first group yet xD