Sled dog breeding

[Starfire669]

U gunna breed sibs? How much you selling them for?

My Sibes are from AKC show lines, not sled lines. They would not do what you want them to do as well as a Sibe from sled lines. My pups will sell for the normal price in my area, $1500 for full registration, $800 for limited registration. All the top breeders in my area ask these prices and have waiting lists for their pups, many pups are sold before a litter touches the ground.

 

[res]

While that is true in many cases, and I agree with you for the most part, my mother loved her dogs, and made choices to put their health and well being over money or breeding them. She did have her dogs spayed and neutered rather than risk another litter when she was informed of issues she had not previously been aware of. (my sister became a vet and explained some things to my mother.) My Mother even chose to have a young female spayed before it ever bred, because it had been a runt and the male was twice her size, she did not want to risk the little female to delivery. I would label my mother an uninformed breeder, not irresponsible, though I admit she should have looked things up before breeding.
I myself could be labeled a backyard breeder simply because I will be breeding my Sibes. However, a lot of time and effort was put into getting the right male to pair to my female, it was not random, "that pup is cute, let's breed him to our girl". We listed our girls faults, contacted reputible breeders and found a male that comes from a line most likely to correct/balance my girls faults. This included going through many pedigrees and lines to find a good fit. Time will tell if we made the right choice. My hope is to produce a puppy, hopefully female, to show in confirmation as I had originally wanted to do with my female. I may show my male, but am having trouble getting him ring trained, which is why we are attending confirmation classes together now. To help prepare us both, even if he doesn't show, training him, and learning from my mistakes should prepare me to show my future pup.

The highlighted red text is what to me, defines a "backyard breeder". It is not the location of the actual copulation, but the mindset. Heck, I know backyard breeders that bring their dogs in to the clinic for collection and AI.

"Backyard breeders", IMO, is ANY breeder who breeds for profit, who breeds dogs so that they can increase their bank account, fund a vacation, send a kid to college, etc. If you are breeding correctly, you are not making enough money for any of those things... Yes, you might show an itty-bitty profit, but not a 4-figure or above profit.

 

[Americano Blue]

I would like to clear some things up. The loose use of "backyard breeder" is incorrect. I know what you are trying to say, but using that term is condemning the wrong people. Technically, I am a "backyard breeder" because, well, I breed in my backyard.

I would recommend using something like "irresponsible breeder" or something of that like.

how bout Irresponsible backyard breeder?

 

[Starfire669]

The highlighted red text is what to me, defines a "backyard breeder". It is not the location of the actual copulation, but the mindset. Heck, I know backyard breeders that bring their dogs in to the clinic for collection and AI.

"Backyard breeders", IMO, is ANY breeder who breeds for profit, who breeds dogs so that they can increase their bank account, fund a vacation, send a kid to college, etc. If you are breeding correctly, you are not making enough money for any of those things... Yes, you might show an itty-bitty profit, but not a 4-figure or above profit.

All the reputible breeder I know, have told me that what little profit they make is put right back into their dogs. They use the profits for building new or improving old enclosures, vet care, and other essentials the dogs need. Sometimes it can be to purchase an item of comfort for the pets, 1 breeder had to have her pond covered because of mosquitos and then purchased a stock tank that she drains every few days for the dogs to cool off in. Here in Texas, without swimming of some kind the Sibes can easily overheat, and I myself have a 5 foot round stock tank for my babies to cool off in.

I want to breed because I love Sibes, and I feel that I can improve my girl's blood line. I do feel that many champion Sibes are too inbred, my stud was from line breeding. His sire is also his grandsire. This can be dangerous if someone inexperienced does it, I never will. I plan to get another quality female for my stud, I have already contacted a good breeder in Arizona that has a promising male female pair I am waiting to be bred together for the traits I want. And for good, non-related blood, I will travel to pick the right dog, I will not just take what is available near me. I don't have the facilities now to have multiple males, so my females must be paired to my stud carefully. Since I am disabled (I have rods holding my spine together), and I love animals so much, have a sister who is a vet, and want to improve blood lines not just breed for profit, I feel that breeding quality Sibes is the right fit for me.

 

[Starfire669]

This is my pair. My male, Phantom is still a pup.

My female, Dawn is a year and a half old.

 

[SternRose]

Cute

 

[SternRose]

I have a few question( I know the answers to them)
1) what is a b.*tch called after she has her litter?
2) what's a male dog called
3) what's the best breeding age for a b*tch?
( I know ALL answers, I'm just asking and anyone can answer) these are things all dog owners should now.

 

[Half-Pint]

While that is true in many cases, and I agree with you for the most part, my mother loved her dogs, and made choices to put their health and well being over money or breeding them. She did have her dogs spayed and neutered rather than risk another litter when she was informed of issues she had not previously been aware of. (my sister became a vet and explained some things to my mother.) My Mother even chose to have a young female spayed before it ever bred, because it had been a runt and the male was twice her size, she did not want to risk the little female to delivery. I would label my mother an uninformed breeder, not irresponsible, though I admit she should have looked things up before breeding.
I myself could be labeled a backyard breeder simply because I will be breeding my Sibes. However, a lot of time and effort was put into getting the right male to pair to my female, it was not random, "that pup is cute, let's breed him to our girl". We listed our girls faults, contacted reputible breeders and found a male that comes from a line most likely to correct/balance my girls faults. This included going through many pedigrees and lines to find a good fit. Time will tell if we made the right choice. My hope is to produce a puppy, hopefully female, to show in confirmation as I had originally wanted to do with my female. I may show my male, but am having trouble getting him ring trained, which is why we are attending confirmation classes together now. To help prepare us both, even if he doesn't show, training him, and learning from my mistakes should prepare me to show my future pup.

I understand that, but I wasn't talking about your mom exactly. I meant the previous comments that used the term loosely. Since I have such a small space, I have to do very selective breeding. If there is so much as a "I don't know" I can't do it. With rabbits, I do careful selection based on traits I want. Weak shoulders? I pair it with a buck that has strong ones. I do not consider myself an 'irresponsible' breeder, due to the work I put into choosing matings carefully. With dogs though, I hadn't realized how much research breeders put into it. It makes me appreciate that aspect of animal husbandry more.

 

[Starfire669]

I understand that, but I wasn't talking about your mom exactly. I meant the previous comments that used the term loosely. Since I have such a small space, I have to do very selective breeding. If there is so much as a "I don't know" I can't do it. With rabbits, I do careful selection based on traits I want. Weak shoulders? I pair it with a buck that has strong ones. I do not consider myself an 'irresponsible' breeder, due to the work I put into choosing matings carefully. With dogs though, I hadn't realized how much research breeders put into it. It makes me appreciate that aspect of animal husbandry more.

Yeah, when my show hopes for Dawn were dashed by her growing that half inch too much, I started researching breeding as well as confirmation. My mind was blown with all I learned. Dogs are selected to be bred based on so many traits. Confirmation is the biggest in show dogs lines, but temperament plays a large part as well. Color is not important, and in Sibes, the blue eyes are not as common in show dogs strains (even though people think first of the pretty blue eyes). The blue eyes were heavily favored in the ring back when showing them started, many felt this was unfair as there was more to confirmation than eye color. Now the opposite is true, brown eyed Sibes win a lot more than blue eyed. There is also the fact that blue eyed dogs are more prone to eye problems than brown eyed dogs. Then the fur must be just so, the shoulder set just right, the tail straight from the spine not above or below the top line. It goes on and on. I am still learning the lingo and the meaning of these terms as I compare my 2 dogs to the standard. So yes, responsible breeders should know everything about their breed in general and their dogs specifically.

One day, I hope to be as good breeding Sibes as my mentor and the breeder of my male, Phantom. She is a walking encyclopedia about Sibes. I am actually taking both Phantom and Dawn to her soon, maybe this weekend, so she can evaluate them both and teach me more. It's a 4 hour drive to her house 1 way. But worth it for all that she can teach me. Plus she is eager to see Phantom, she almost kept him for herself, and she wants to see how he is turning out. She has even mentioned possibly breeding him to 1 of her new females if I am willing. I don't know that I want to stud him to outside dogs, without knowing their temperaments, it would make life difficult with my pack. Plus I'd need full proof of all vaccinations and worming before allowing a strange dog on my property. But it wouldn't happen for at least a year as Phantom isn't even full grown yet, and I am way off topic, lol.

 

[Americano Blue]

I have a few question( I know the answers to them)
1) what is a b.*tch called after she has her litter?
2) what's a male dog called
3) what's the best breeding age for a b*tch?
( I know ALL answers, I'm just asking and anyone can answer) these are things all dog owners should now.

I think the male is a dog or stud and a female is a dam
I know at least one of these. Bred after the 3rd heat cycle or when she is 2. Not positive tho'