SMOOTH SIZZLE

[LadiesAndJane]

Hello knowledgeable people out there!
Just found out I have a little smooth sizzle! His egg was mixed in with the other silkie eggs I hatched. Does anyone know what type of hen he would need to be bred to, to produce the frizzle/sizzle feathers? According to the breeder, he is 5th generation, either a lavender or splash (not sure yet as he is only 4 weeks old) Acts like a roo, so calling him a "he". He herds the other chicks and pecks them on the neck when he thinks they are misbehaving!
Thanks!

 

[Love My Flock]

I would guess another of his breed or a silkie mabe a Polish chicken. His behavior doesn't necessarily mean he is rooster he could just be the leader hen

 

[nchls school]

A sizzle has curly silkied feathers (curly hair). Please post a picture.

 

[LadiesAndJane]

I would guess another of his breed or a silkie mabe a Polish chicken. His behavior doesn't necessarily mean he is rooster he could just be the leader hen

Thanks, yes that is possible too! Time will tell.

 

[LadiesAndJane]

I will. The breeder saw his photo and said he a is a "smooth" sizzle. I understand that you need the smooth (that carries the gene for the fizzled feathers) in order to produce the frizzled feathers and that breeding frizzle to fizzle can produce poor feather quality. I am no expert, and just read about all of this today!

 

[LadiesAndJane]

I thought he was just a satin, but breeder says he is a smooth sizzle. Apparently there is a difference. If he is carrying the gene for the frizzled feathers, I was wondering what he would have to be bred to, to produce the frizzled feathers.

 

[Willawong Hill]

I think this might have been answered elsewhere, but you will need to breed him to a hen with frizzle feathers to get chicks with frizzle feathers as he doesn't actually carry the frizzle gene (he would look frizzle if he did). You do need one smooth feathered parent though when breeding frizzle/sizzles as you have already mentioned frizzle x frizzle is not a good idea due to having some chicks with two frizzle genes known as frazzles which have issues.

He most likely carries a gene for silkie feathering though and so if you bred him to a hen with silkie feathers half their chicks should be silkie also. If you bred him to a sizzle hen you would get chicks like him along with silkie feathered chicks and sizzles. Personally I think Satins and smooth sizzles are the same in that they are both chicks with silkie traits aside from the silkie feathers. Perhaps satins carry no silkie feathering genes though and this guy has one so that's the difference?

 

[LadiesAndJane]

I think this might have been answered elsewhere, but you will need to breed him to a hen with frizzle feathers to get chicks with frizzle feathers as he doesn't actually carry the frizzle gene (he would look frizzle if he did). You do need one smooth feathered parent though when breeding frizzle/sizzles as you have already mentioned frizzle x frizzle is not a good idea due to having some chicks with two frizzle genes known as frazzles which have issues.

He most likely carries a gene for silkie feathering though and so if you bred him to a hen with silkie feathers half their chicks should be silkie also. If you bred him to a sizzle hen you would get chicks like him along with silkie feathered chicks and sizzles. Personally I think Satins and smooth sizzles are the same in that they are both chicks with silkie traits aside from the silkie feathers. Perhaps satins carry no silkie feathering genes though and this guy has one so that's the difference?

Thank you, that is really helpful and answers my questions!

 

[Matilda Belle]

The proper term is satin. Sizzle/smooth is not a term most reputable breeders use. Nonetheless, this satin does not carry a frizzle gene. In order to make frizzled chicks, you will need a frizzled mate.

 

[LadiesAndJane]

The proper term is satin. Sizzle/smooth is not a term most reputable breeders use. Nonetheless, this satin does not carry a frizzle gene. In order to make frizzled chicks, you will need a frizzled mate.

Thank you so much for your help. I am just going by what the breeder told me. From what I have read, I believe he is a satin as well. Seems to be debate on what a sizzle is. Some things I’ve read say that sizzles come in a smooth feather version as well. A lot of conflicting information about the correct terminology.