Snake...my excitement for the day...

MiniBeesKnees

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I have an OE banty hen sitting on eggs...she gathered some from her sisters and her mother and added her own...13 in all. Seems like too many to me, but I figure she knows best. She started sitting the 17th-18th so anytime after this morning there could be some action. I've been checking all day. She is in an outside solid roofed pen, brooding in a dog crate...the airline kind with a dark green tarp doubled and put over the crate.

A little while ago I go out to check again and she is all fluffed up, out of the crate and dancing around. I caught a glimpse of a snake tail. I poked a stick in there since there was no rattle on the tail...if that was the case, she'd have been on her own. But it hid in the straw and wouldn't come out. I had no option but to take the tarp off, and drag it out of pen and poke the straw some more. Still no snake. Chicken is quite frantic.

So I have no choice but to upend the crate, eggs and all...which I did into a soft pile of leaves. Ah, Ha! Snake! Probably a blacksnake or the biggest grass snake I've ever seen. It was dark brown/black with yellowish-white stripes down the body. Silverish-gray underbelly. I can't just chase it off because there is a pen with five chicks in it nearby. So I proceed to catch it. Mashed the head down with my stick, and grabbed it behind the head. Frankly, I didn't think I had that in me.

I held it above shoulder height and it drug the ground and since I'm five foot one, I guess it was about five feet long. I walked it down my dirt lane out to the 'main' road some five hundred feet and winged it into the field on the other side of the road. I didn't really want to kill it.

Does anyone have any opinion if that is far enough away or should I load my .38 with snake shot shells and hunt it down?

Anyway I go back to reorganize the nest and the hen is off with her mother and sisters free ranging and I can't really tell which is which, they all look alike. Now there is only 12 eggs, and no shells so I think the snake had eaten one. And one egg has pipped, and is half zipped...and the chick inside is peeping. I moved the crate into the coop and watched chickens until one looked like it was acting funny...and caught her and put her on the nest again. They must be her eggs, she stayed on it.

Lord knows if they will survive being dumped out of the nest, jostled a whole lot, and the hen was off them about a half hour or 45 minutes. Anyone else disrupted a nest so close to hatching like that...what happened? Did the chicks all die?
Terry in Tennessee
 
wow, i just do not think i could pick up a snake. Just don't think I could do it...I would of thought of something to save my chicks, but it would not be picking it up with my bare hands or killing it. I probably would of trapped it under a bucket and sat on it till DH got home. Wow you are brave....

Hope your chicks are all okay, sorry you are missing one. sounds like momma is going to take good care of them.
 
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I don't believe it was far enough away to throw the snake .. keep your eyes open for it to come back and a loaded gun .. once snakes find eggs they keep coming back for more ... so I would plan on killing the snake if I were you.. I don't like to kill them either but once they find eggs... they are just tooo good and they come back... it sounds like a rat snake to me .. or something similiar to that..
 
One question, where was the Rooster in all this? The only time I've seen a snake around my chickens is when it's hanging out of my Barred Rocks roo's mouth. He might not have gotten the chance at a 5' one, but 3' is no problem. I don't call him Big Daddy for nothing.
 
Good on you!
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Sounds like a nonvenomous rat snake from the description. Good to have around, but big time egg thieves. Try wrapping the entire bottom of the pen in 24" hardware cloth with all the pointy parts up. Trust me, it will be back, or another will move right in. We let them live, because they keep mice and roaches away, but you do have to protect the eggs from them.
 
Well, here is the deal with the roo...or roos. I have seabrights, and millefleur Duccles, and a spare white jap with a black tail roo, and two old english, and a big mix and I keep them all separate in rooster jails while I finish the inside of the coop. I let the ladies roam about so I don't want any old english roos messing with my duccle or seabright hens so they were all locked up and couldn't protect her. I should have put one in with her.

I don't think that was far enough away either. I'm going to load the .38 with snakeshot ammo and keep a sharp eye out.
I don't want to kill things but I don't want them eating my eggs or chicks either.
Terry in TN
 
Wow, what a coincidence...I guess it is snake season! I went out to collect eggs yesterday, and I only had 1 in the nest boxes (I had picked up 2 earlier), but I had seen hens in the nest boxes several times, so I thought that was weird...where are all my eggs? I didn't have to wonder for very long, because I saw a HUGE 6' long snake in the run a few seconds later. I ran around to the front of the run and he went back toward the coop, and into the nest boxes. All the chickens were agitated making "danger" clucking noises, and a few of them got real close to him. The snake struck at them a few times. I was completely freaking out! Long story short...I called a neighbor for help and took care of the snake. Part of me likes the idea of relocating the monster, but I just couldn't take that chance with my little broody Silkie sitting on 7 Silkie eggs...this snake could have probably eaten her AND had her eggs for dessert. Also, I'm pretty sure his lunch included a golf ball from the nest box since 1 is missing...so he would have died anyways.
 
You should relocate snakes a few kilometres /miles from your house. Hubby relocates snakes for people over here and he always takes them a few km's from where they were found.
 
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I agree. We have relocated rattlesnakes from our property for years. I atually don't take them miles away, (I just relocate to the undeveloped area near our home) but for those who are frightened of them, taking them a few miles away wouldn't hurt. Just remember to take them to a place with suitable habitat.

Generally snakes frequent poultry areas because there are mice and rats where poultry are found. Sometimes they eat an egg or chick, but what attracted the snake was probably rodents. I never relocate non-poisionous snakes. Sometimes I take the gophers or king snakes and set them loose into our barn to go after rats & mice.
 

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