Rvl Rookie, those are unbelieable photos! I know a lot of people don't like snakes but I think they're very beneficial. I've heard that rat snakes are rather grumpy and don't like to be held. Looks like you got a nasty bite! Must of hurt? I am so interested in snakes. When I moved to MD over 20 yrs. ago, the DNR said there were no venomous snakes in the state. I wondered how that could be. Now we have copperheads, cottonmouths and a few isolated reports of timber rattlers! Things change, don't they!! Your snakes are beautiful and very healthy looking. Is that a bit of pink on your snake or a camera thing? And I'm so glad to hear from someone that knows exactly what their "black" snake is! Somewhere on this site I posted a picture of a 7 ft. black snake that showed up on my coop. If you do a search for my user name, you'll see the picture. I'd love to know what it is!