So mad I could spit fire

Discussion in 'Other Pets & Livestock' started by firedove, Jul 10, 2010.

  1. firedove

    firedove Songster

    Nov 10, 2008
    Fitzwilliam NH
    It's a combination thing, mad at myself and mad at the situation. Last June 30 I was in a terrible car accident which left me in bed for a long time and I am still off my feet trying to recover. Shortly after the accident (mid-August) a friend called me about buying my horse. He was a 10 year old blood bay Arabian gelding, needed a refresher under saddle but had been jumped quite a bit over the previous winter/spring by a girl who leased him and her trainer thought he was a great event prospect. We agreed by signed contract that my friend would pay $1000 for him (I had purchased him for $5500 myself when he was 5), making payments when she could (my biggest mistake) since she didn't have the money up front and I figured it would be better for her to take him and care for him so my husband could stop having to do so. I disclosed to her everything I knew about his history, much of which she already knew from talking to me about him in the past. I had him vet checked before he left here, the vet pronounced him sound and healthy. He was underweight because the girl who leased him over the winter had not fed him well enough which we discovered when he was returned to us in May, he had gained weight since we had gotten him back and was doing fine other than being ribby.

    My friend took him down to CT and gave me regular updates, only ever complaining about his stubborness. She mentioned that her farrier's wife told her that he had a crooked spine near his tail that should be dealt with by a chiropractor. She never followed up with a vet or chiropractor and that was the last I heard of it. After a few months she mentioned that he was being too stubborn and a friend of hers had fallen in love with him and wanted to buy him. I talked to the friend and he raved about how great George was and how much fun he was having riding him. We agreed that he would take over paying the $850 that still remained owed for George. He mentioned no issues with the price or the horse. We talked off and on through the months and he raved and raved, he made a small payment of $60 towards the amount owed. Then 2 months ago or so, he mentioned George was going lame when he jumped him. Next he told me that George was tested positive for Lyme. Today he tells me George isn't getting any better, is actually worse, goes lame after 10 minutes of riding, has colicked twice. He tells me he has put too much money into the horse, while admitting that he didn't treat the Lyme with the recommended Doxycycline, and he wants to return him to me or place him in a companion home.

    So the way I see it, I sent down a perfectly salable horse and now they want to have used him up and return him to me in that unusable, unsalable state without ever paying what they owed on him. So I refused to take him back and told him that I was holding him responsible for the purchase price of George since he was fine when he left here as far as anyone could tell.

    So since my first friend's name is still the one officially on the contract I told the second guy that it was between him and her as to how I get paid. So she writes to me and tells me that George was "off" when she turned him to one side right from the beginning, which she failed to mention until it came down to owing money for him. She says he had lameness issues all along, which neither person mentioned in any of the times that they were promising to send payments for him. She throws in my face that he was underweight when she picked him up and that he was not on a grain diet, he was grass fed on pasture 90% of the time, supplemented with high quality Canadian hay and hay stretcher, which she says is not an appropriate diet for a horse. Again, all of these issues suddenly come out of the woodwork when the horse can't be ridden anymore and no one wants to pay for him.

    You think I would have learned with all the times I have been screwed over by friends, but the situation after my accident made it look like a good idea to send him down there. At first I was going to be completely stubborn and deal with this legally if need be, but with everything else going on in my life right now, I just can't deal with this junk. I finally told them to place him in a companion home and we can all be done with this. I'm still royally ticked off though. I have too many battles to fight in my life right now for me to fight this one too.
  2. sourland

    sourland Broody Magician Premium Member

    May 3, 2009
    New Jersey
    Sorry you have to deal with this. Use it as a learning experience. Never enter into business or deals involving money with family or friends!
  3. aggieterpkatie

    aggieterpkatie Songster

    Apr 26, 2009
    Uh, so you're going to leave your horse with these morons who won't treat him for Lyme? It's nonsense they did that, but you should have gotten the money up front, or taken the horse back when they failed to make payments. If it were me, I'd take my horse back so I knew he'd get proper vet care for Lyme (which is a serious disease not to be taken lightly) and not worry about the money which they probably won't pay anyways.
  4. deerman

    deerman Rest in Peace 1949-2012

    Aug 24, 2008
    Southern Ohio
    Quote:She was not able to take care of the horse, because of her health...............reason she let him go so cheap ,and on a payment plan..
  5. ranchhand

    ranchhand Rest in Peace 1956-2011

    Aug 25, 2008
    I can see not wanting to take on the battle, but the "friend" still owes you money, it's on a contract.

    Being a natural born skeptic, I smell a rat. Ask for proof, a veterinary receipt/invoice that shows that the horse is sick/lame. Farrier's receipt, too.

    I wonder if the friends aren't taking advantage of your current condition to get a nice horse for very little money. Is there anyone who can go and SEE the horse for you? If the horse is in such bad shape, they should/could be charged with neglect as well as breach of contract.

    Perhaps you could get that same perso to "repossess" the horse, sell him for you and get part of the profit as payment for services.

    Good luck and sending good thoughts for strength and healing!
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2010
  6. BC_Farms

    BC_Farms Songster

    Jan 20, 2010
    Enfield & Chaplin CT
    I agree with RanchHand. To make it seem less skeptical you could say that you want the papers sent to you so you can show your vet or something.

    Good luck.

    Lyme (if he does have it) is no joke and is pretty prevalent here it CT...but doxycycline is not that expensive (actually if horses can take the same kind of meds humans and cats and dogs do it's free at about 3 different pharmacies) the story seems off to me.
  7. Settin'_Pretty

    Settin'_Pretty Songster

    Feb 10, 2008
    North Georgia
    it's all nonsense

    take them to small claims court, get your money.

    IF I bought a car from you and then wrecked it, would I then be absolved from paying for it?
    that's why banks that loan money on cars and houses require insurance.

    It's no different with livestock, if you are making payments and it dies, in your care, you still are responsible for the cost.
  8. twentynine

    twentynine Songster

    Jun 14, 2009
    Never do business with family or friends.
  9. redhen

    redhen Kiss My Grits... Premium Member

    May 19, 2008
    Western MA
    Settin'_Pretty :

    it's all nonsense

    take them to small claims court, get your money.

    IF I bought a car from you and then wrecked it, would I then be absolved from paying for it?
    that's why banks that loan money on cars and houses require insurance.

    It's no different with livestock, if you are making payments and it dies, in your care, you still are responsible for the cost.

  10. mekasmom

    mekasmom Songster

    Dec 9, 2008
    Just take the horse back, care for him to the best of your ability. It's the right thing to do for the horse. Sometimes money is a secondary issue to the health of the animal. So you lost money. Still do the right thing. The Judge of all the Earth will do right. And it's just money. Save the horse.

    In life, you just do what is right because it is right. Money is a secondary consideration.
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2010

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