Solving the Eagle problem Chinese stlye.

[12 Acres]

That is sickening.

 

[Trollkiller]

Everyone is saying that it is cruel and I agree, but I wonder if this treatment of the eagle causes it to move its territory to a different area.

I guess what I am asking is if separating the chickens from the eagles is not practical due to financial or other concerns, would this not be better than killing the eagles? Would this not fall in the same category as tying a dead chicken to a dog to break them from killing chickens?

 

[kryptoniteqhs]

how do they keep them from eating the chickens?? tie them up? im sorta confused on that part?

 

[redhen]

thats just stupid....really...how do they figure that will work?...sometimes..i swear..

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[redhen]

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nope...because the chicken is already dead when you tie it to a dog....thats the differance......in this instance..all parties are still alive...

 

[AngieChick]

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One big difference is that dogs are predators that we have encouraged to propagate for our own uses and desires. They are human caused and it's on us to protect our birds from OUR predators (the dead chicken around the neck is usually reserved when a person's own dog kills the chicken).

Also, dogs and birds think completely differently. They have different motivations. Dogs, as a domestic animal, generally very much want to please. They also have a concept of "rules" from their lives among humans. Also, they are usually not hunting out of hunger but out of instinct or for fun. Eagles hunt for food, period. There is no such thing as a rule for eagles. If it moves, it's fair game. They also generally hunt from the sky, and probably don't distinguish a chicken from any other type of bird, nor can they. So no, there is no way that is an effective method of predator control.

For the trouble they went to to set up the situation of the eagle being attacked, they could have put up a stupid fence made out of sticks and netting. It wouldn't take much. I think they were just mad and being evil and unreasonable, looking for revenge on some poor bird that was just being a bird.

Edited to add that they are going to introduce a disease vector into their flocks from the raptors and kill off more than the predators would. Dumb idea.

 

[Attack Chicken]

It's a wild animal....why would they torment it?It's just trying to stay alive and who knows maybe that poor bird had chicks to feed.

 

[LynneP]

Trollkiller- I think you may have missed the point. The chickens are eating the raptor to death while it is alive. There is no intention of releasing it. They assume the eagles watching will learn from this, but the one trussed on the ground is being tortured to death. I find this situation exceptionally offensive, and to your credit you have alerted us to the practice. It's hard to accept that anyone would do this and that we are not in a position to do anything.

 

[horsejody]

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I don't think they are letting the chickens kill it, just scare it. The caption says, "Chinese farmers are trapping eagles and other birds of prey and throwing them trussed up into chicken pens to make them so scared of poultry that they never return"

I think they just scare and release them and hope they never return. Anyway, it seems a bit over the top. But, the survival of my family doesn't depend on the survival of my chickens (at least not yet).

 

[LynneP]

...If a chicken will eat a mouse whole and peck out another's eyes or attack a fellow flock member that is bleeding, it will peck out the eyes of a trussed raptor. Birds get very excited about killing, it's their nature. They kill things and are killed. But when a human intervenes to allow such a level of cruelty most are appalled. Unless this photo is staged for the media or is a product of some sick individual with Photoshop we can assume that bird died horribly. Look, I think this will be my last post on the subject. I'm not sure what the agenda is, but this upsets me dreadfully. Enough already.