Some free advice...I learned the hard way

Discussion in 'Predators and Pests' started by quadcam79, Jul 2, 2008.

  1. quadcam79

    quadcam79 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    even if you dont have any dogs of your own, secure your coop and run and after that run an electric fence around the perimeter. Yesterday all but 1 of my chickens were killed by 2 of the neighbors dogs that were allowed to roam the neighborhood. my whole acre lot is chain link fenced, they still came in, went around the house, back to the coop and annihilated my birds, tore through the run and went into the coop.

    my aracuana pullet who ducked into the woods and was wondering the yard unscathed when I got home from work. I still have 1 buff orphington unaccounted for. I'm assuming it was a dog who did this because when i was leaving for work my GF's daughters BF said he was out looking at the chickens in the run and a dog came wondering into our yard, he says it left when he told it to go. Apparently it came back because leter this afternoon i asked my GF to go check on the chickens and she got out to the coop and freaked out.

    She said "something is by the door to the run....dead chicken and feathers everywhere, the fencing to the run is torn down too" then she opened the door to the coop and all but two of the birds were laying inside dead.

    I cant quite express in words how I felt when she told me this on the phone, I was flipping out, all the time and feed and work to get them to where they were, let alone they were like pets. i had a really cool crevacouer roo and aracuana roo who both just started crowing last week. the hens were about ready to start laying and now I have to start all over again

    So i dont know for sure who did the killing but any more dogs wandering into my yard will not be wandering back out. I dont know why people who live in the country just think that because they live away from town they can just let their dogs roam free onto everyone else's property.

    I just placed an order for about 15 more chicks....I cant believe I have to start all over again..ughhhhhhh!

    on a positive note...heres what happened today...
    I found the last missing chicken, sort of...first of all I walked out my front door this morning and guess who i see at my front gate, yep the dog...err dogs actually. there were 2 of them, pretty much puppies, maybe 7-8 months old. I let my pitbull out and she ran up to the fence, didnt even bark, she wanted to play with them instead. So I say a few choice words to them and chase them off, they didnt go far, just to my next door neighbors gate and tried to get in her yard.

    So I yell over to the neighbor and ask if she knows who owns the dogs and tell her about the lil *##@$% killing my chickens. She says the same dogs keep trying to get in her yard too and she thinks she knows who owns them, a guy a few houses down. She says, dont bother trying to call animal control, they wont come out anyway.

    so later my neighbor from across the street calls me and says "I have info on your missing chicken, the guy who owns the dogs stopped and asked me if I know who owns chickens (apparently the dogs took one home as a souvenir) and I told him that you do and you were really upset about the dogs killing them, he said tell you he is sooooo sorry and come talk to him and he will replace them for you"

    I wont have time to stop over till next week so I told my fiancee to go over tomorrow and tell him we just ordered chicks and they are $50. I also told her she needs to stress to him the fact that if they come back in the yard they may never come back home and even if it's not my yard. it may be someone else so he needs to keep his dogs contained on his own property and not let them just run loose anywhere they want.
     
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  2. panner123

    panner123 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    $50 (B#### S) What about all the food and time you spent on your loss.
    I would make him pay for all the food it takes to get the chicks to the age of those you lost. And tell him if the dogs come back, he can find them at the pound. If they come back again, you didn't see them and don;t know where they are, S S S..
    (Shoot, shovel and shutup)
     
  3. quadcam79

    quadcam79 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    yeh I know, feed, time...ughh..they were all about 5 months old, the roos just started to crow last week and I was expecting to have some fresh eggs soon.

    he's lucky I didnt see those dogs yesterday or they would be fertilizing my garden
     
  4. cicene mete

    cicene mete Chillin' With My Peeps

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    That's sad news. On a lighter note, what kind of fence charger is good for protecting a coop & run?
     
  5. dixygirl

    dixygirl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    "something is by the door to the run....dead chicken and feathers everywhere, the fencing to the run is torn down too"

    That sentence is spine chilling!
    How could dogs tear down fencing to a run? What went wrong? Was it put up with light weight staples? or was it chicken wire that they clawed through? Were the posts not anchored well in the ground? Or was the wood too fine? Often we build coops thinking of a light weight, soft fluffy chicken. But it looks like we should build them thinking about a 100 pound ferocious beast from now on.

    I am in the midde of building a run and coup now and I want to think a dog could jump on it and not tear it down. This makes me reevaluate things. You are scaring me. I want to make sure I don't make it too light weight or flimsy now so nothing like this can happen. I want my run to be strong enough by itself that it could withstand a 100 pound dog jumping on it. Also never leaving them loose in the run at night but always lock them in a coop that is also very strong, secure and inside the run. That way you have two strong layers of defense Only then think about adding electric wire for an added safety measure as an after thought. Because the power could go out or the predator could just run through the electrical wire, especially if they are rabid. The run and coop have to stand strong against attack on their own. You should try to analyze how they tore down the fence too so that you can better protect your next batch.

    Oh I am so sorry this happened. I can't imagine what your family is feeling now. When we get these animals they are like our children and we have to do all in our power to protect them.

    Tomorrow I am going to work double hard at securing my run before anyone goes in it!

    PS Please post pictures of the area they tore so we can try to figure out what went wrong and how to do it better this time.
     
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  6. SpeckledHills

    SpeckledHills Chillin' With My Peeps

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    So tragic! I'm so sorry.
    I am very glad the owner is seeking to take responsibility, though I know he can't undo what's been done.
    I'm sorry you will lose the things you were looking forward to with the chickens you had, and I hope there will be many unique joys with your new chickens.
    Please accept my condolences. It is sad to lose chickens.
     
  7. dixygirl

    dixygirl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Tell them to pay for the broken wood and fencing too so you can build a really strong one this time.
     
  8. wishin4chicken

    wishin4chicken Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You need to charge your neighbor $25/lost bird (or more) plus coop repair expenses. Get his attention this time and, hopefully, it won't happen again. It's really great that he's willing to replace your lost birds but $50 is not enough. Really sorry about your lost birds. Let's hope the new ones arrive quickly!

    The website "The Farm at Morrison Corner" was a wonderful recommendation for problems with chicken-killing neighbor dogs. Check it out:

    http://www.gatewaytovermont.com/thefarm/chickenfaq.htm
     
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  9. robinaggie

    robinaggie Flew the Coop

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    MAKE HIM KEEP HIS DOGS PENNED UP!!! Nothing good happens to dogs that are allowed to run loose, and once they learn to play with animals the way they played with your chickens they won't stop.

    Also, make the guy buy you eggs until your new chicks start laying!! :thun

    I can't tell you how sorry I am for your loss.

    BTW - my all caps aren't to yell at you - it's an expression of general anger over the issue. I've been round and round with my neighbors, too. Animal Control tells me they have to SEE the dogs out, my pictures aren't good enough.
     
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  10. chickens4jojo

    chickens4jojo Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I am so sorry. [​IMG]

    I read in one "chicken book" that when a dog came onto the authors property & killed one of her chickens, she charged them $50 per chicken~~and the people paid it.

    Check on some hatchery websites and see what they charge for 4/5 month old pullets, print it out and show it to the neighbor. He sounds like he really is sorry, but it may help him realize how valuable a chicken really can be~~especially after it is grown!

    Best wishes on your new little chicks though.
     

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