someone please tell me what to buy

[Howard E]

The main fence chargers I use are Parmak 12 DC fencers......which are 3.0 joules and rated for 30 miles of fence.

I also have this one.......which is 0.6 joules.....and rated for 5 to 15 miles of fence....

https://gallagherelectricfencing.com/products/b60-battery-powered-energizer-15-miles-60-acres.

Fence chargers seem to be a loosely rated standard......in other words.....one outfit's 1 joule may not be the same as another. And there seems to be as many explanations of what the joule fence rating means as there are companies that make them.

But for our purposes, if you find one rated for at least 1 joule or 10 miles, and in your setup, it tests out to 7,000 volts or more, you should be OK. That is as per instructions that came with both brands of fence chargers.

My Parmak fencers, on a small run and fresh battery will test out to 13,600 volts. The Gallagher must have a different type of internal regulator, as it only tests out to 7,400 volts no matter the fence. But videos of coons touching the Gallagher fence suggests it is just as effective. They don't like it. That is assuming you get a clean shot at em, like on a paw or their nose. If there is an advantage to a super hot fencer, if the voltage gets cranked up high enough, you risk induction........which means the spark is ready to jump and over a wide area. A low voltage unit will give off a small, mild spark when shorted out. With a hot fencer on the verge of induction, a large loud spark. A hot fencer may punch through fur.....like when a varmint is crawling under a fence and the wire is only rubbing on their back. With a hot fence, if the wire gets close enough....it will jump and get em.

As near as I can tell, there is no downside to a hot fencer...in the range of 1 to 3 joules......10 to 30 mile fencers.....other than the marginally higher cost.

 

[RainbowHen]

Once your fence is up, you will want to "bait" it to assure varmint gets zapped. This is my newest invention for this......a bait can hung from the wire.

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Just a standard tin can, with a couple holes punched near the top, and fixed with light wire that resembles a christmas ornament hook, that is draped over the hot wire, so the can itself is now HOT. If you put the clips on either side of a fence post, the fence won't sag under the weight.

Put your smellable attractant in the can. If they touch or lick the can....they get lit up.


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That is the line voltage on the fence, and yes, that is 12,800 volts. Ouch.

BTW, if your fence crosses a ditch that allows an opening for a varmint to use to get under the fence by hugging the bottom of the ditch, you can use something similar to this......a lightweight aluminum can.....beer, soda, etc.....and hang it from the fence by a piece of wire, but let it hang down into the ditch. Punch a small drain hole in the bottom to avoid collecting rain water (or hang it upside down).
Varmint would have to brush past it to get buy......and that gets him.

This is genius

 

[Mom 2em All]

I got the motion sensor spot lights up Around the pen- I am very pleased with them. No sneaking around from the woods - animal predator or human
( and yes, my arm brushed the electric fence wire when I creeped around to the back of the pen to see when the spot light would detect me )
ETA: the “ fence” you see in the back is just a piece of chicken wire I put there to try and dissuade the chickens when free ranging, to not go deeper in the woods when I was running around and around the pen to corral them back up before they learned that bed time meant go to the coop! It worked very well as it kept me from pursuing them when they ducked under it

 

[Mom 2em All]

As near as I can tell, there is no downside to a hot fencer...in the range of 1 to 3 joules......10 to 30 mile fencers.....other than the marginally higher cost.

This one says 0.1 joules, and it’s a 5 mile fence charger. I do need a stronger one don’t I?
I want to get ( out of stock) the 10 mile 2.1 joule charger. The TSC guy told me it was not recommended as it is too strong for a 50 lb dog. BUT I want any dog that touches it to know that was a bad idea. I do not want to fry a wayward chicken though.

 

[hayley3]

I got the motion sensor spot lights up Around the pen- I am very pleased with them. No sneaking around from the woods - animal predator or human
( and yes, my arm brushed the electric fence wire when I creeped around to the back of the pen to see when the spot light would detect me )
ETA: the “ fence” you see in the back is just a piece of chicken wire I put there to try and dissuade the chickens when free ranging, to not go deeper in the woods when I was running around and around the pen to corral them back up before they learned that bed time meant go to the coop! It worked very well as it kept me from pursuing them when they ducked under it

What kind of motion sensor lights did you buy? I really need some but haven't shopped for any yet. Yours look really bright.

My .4 charger sent my neighbor's dog yelping. How big is the area you are wanting to electrify?

 

[Mom 2em All]

What kind of motion sensor lights did you buy? I really need some but haven't shopped for any yet. Yours look really bright.

My .4 charger sent my neighbor's dog yelping. How big is the area you are wanting to electrify?

thepen area that I currently am using the 0.1 charger is 50 ft by 100ft. Three strands.
I bought the lights off amazon. The more you buy the cheaper they are-

 

[Rldad1]

I noticed you are in Dora, Alabama in Walker county. In Jasper, there is an Alabama Farmers Coop and they do understand this and will help you. Hope this helps.

 

[Mom 2em All]

I noticed you are in Dora, Alabama in Walker county. In Jasper, there is an Alabama Farmers Coop and they do understand this and will help you. Hope this helps.

thanks!

 

[cmom]

.1 joule is like a bee sting. Most predators may go right through it. Their fur would protect them somewhat. I have a 1.2 joule and when they touch it, they know it.

 

[hayley3]

A Gallagher 1 joule solar charger was $429 so I had to opt for the .4, which was the next step down.
The .4 felt like it ripped my arm off...I had my daughter test it too...
The 1.2 joule is only $99 so a big savings for a plug-in energizer.