Sour Crop? Early Molt? Something Else???

SaidBlacksmith

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9 Years
Jun 16, 2011
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1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.) Crested Polish Pullet, ~18 weeks, Probably under weight
2) What is the behavior, exactly. See below.
3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms? five days?
4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms? Not that I can tell.
5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma. No
6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.
We've had a lot of rain and the girl's coop had a leak and it took me several days to figure out how to stop it, also the ground in the run was wet and they make a huge mess with their feed. I'm guessing it got wet too, and maybe she ate moldy feed?
7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all. Anything you put in front of her, She never seemed to stop eating, but she is underweight.
8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc. Both normal and runny. It alternates. Until this morning it has been soft and dark green. This morning it was watery and green, and has stayed that way. She may have pooed full on water, or maybe she threw it up.
9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far? I withheld food for ~12 hours, started her on yogurt and garlic, then yogurt and rice and scrambled egg. late that night I let her have some of her regular feed, and she went bezerko eating it. So yesterday she had access to feed and egg and the ACV water. This morning I gave her two table spoons of yogurt and added Nutri-Drench to her water. She drank a ton of water and it seemed to perk her up. She's been eating all day, and she no longer stinks.
10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet? I'd like to work this out myself, but if it's something I can't handle, I would take her to a vet.
11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help: let me know what you want to see. I'll post right away.
12) Describe the housing/bedding in use: in her coop it was pine flake. Since I brought her inside it's been a towel and hardwood flooring.


I noticed that she was sometimes sitting in the yard away from everyone else, she's had a soft crop before and it would go away on it's on. It was soft for too many days in a row, so I brought her in on Saturday. I withheld food for about 18 hours, only giving her water with a strong AVC mixture. The next morning she wasn't feeling great and had trouble staying awake, closing her eyes a lot. I convinced her to eat some yogurt and drink water, which perked her up. She'd alternate through out the day looking fine, perched on the stick and laying on the floor with her head flopped over to the side, half asleep, eyes closed. I fed her chopped up egg, yogurt and smashed rice every few hours. By the evening she was fine-ish, except I noticed that she had lost a rediculous amount of feathers (but no bald spots) and was preening herself every five minutes. Still soft crop. Upon further inspection I saw that she has a lot of pin feathers and must be getting a lot of new feathers. Occasionally I will hear a light sneeze. There's a lot of dander from the pin feathers.
Today she has had a soft crop, started out pooing normal and has progressed to runny poo with green chunks. I gave her yogurt early before I let her eat her regular feed, which is organic layer mash, and drinks water with Nutri-Drench in it. Still has a soft crop, pretty small, sometimes I can barely find it, even though I see her eating or picking at her food pretty often. Her breath doesn't stink anymore. I just checked it and it's watery but I can feel the grains in there. She's had access to grit and grit mixed into her food this whole time.
The thing that's throwing me is the constant preening, and the wing stretch-leg kick thing. (I've seen all of my birds do this, but she's doing it a whole, whole lot) The amount of feathers she's losing seems to have tapered off, but is still constantly preening and picking and standing around. When she sits on the ground she leans over to one side, usually away from her crop, like it's uncomfortable even though it's no where near full. And her tail is dropped and she hangs her wings down like she's pooped out. She nods off and has a bobbing head a lot.

She usually free ranges, but I've left her and my other special needs hen in their run for a few days here and there so they could eat as much as they wanted without the other birds bullying them. If that matters.

Thanks in advance for helping me figure out what the heck is going on with my little LaLa!! She's my special needs chicken's best friend and I'd hate to leave Shrimp all alone!!
 
It did smell sour until today. Today I don't smell anything, but her poo is looking worse. I'm worried I might have started her back on her feed too soon and might have to start all over. Her crop just now felt harder until I pressed on it and I seemed to break it up and felt the squishy crop.

Thanks for the bump :)
 
I would just keep her on ACV and yogurt for now. I had about 10 chickens do this all at once one time. One threw up and they did have the runs. I just got them the ACV and they cleared right up. Turns out they tried to eat some prairie hay or grass whole and they got impacted. BYC has lots of info on impacted crops and such also how to massage it out if you need to. Hope she gets better!
 
So I think this is definitely Bacterial sour crop, since I can get it to empty almost completely. She's floppy when she thinks no one is looking and does the tail drop and wing drop. She's been panting and I'm still getting a few sneezes. She had been roosting up on the folding table that is part of her (ineffective) pen, but now she just wants to lay on the floor, wings and legs stretched out like she's hot (even though she's in the AC with a fan on her).
Could this be two different things or are these all symptoms of a chicken that has had sour crop for a while? (Low weight and low energy? Sneezing?)
I've taken her feed away and will until tomorrow afternoon unless she's drooping so much I need to give her nutri-drench for a vitamin pick me up.

Thanks for your advice, MsBagawkbagawk!
 
Sure, glad I could help. I hope your hen gets better
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