Sour crop

[shell3]

pwand no she didnt aspirate at all during the procedure cos the put a breathing tube in first. apparently the shaking is from the anesthetic and i makes them unable to control body temp
for a few days. think she was cold. shes indoors again now and stopped shaking now. crop feels full but small and neat. hope now it empties by morning. plan on keeping her in for a few days x

 

[Bogtown Chick]

Was gone all day today for Basketball tournament and came back to 23 posts to catch up on!

Well Bombie is looking good out there chookin' around in that neat run of hers. Yay. Shell how are you doing? Hangin' in there? I bet you and Bombie will get good night sleep tonight. And tomorrow will be even better with nice neat crop.

 

[shell3]

well her crop is not empty this morning still small and soft but not empty. shes bright in her self and jumped out of the cage when i opened the door. im doing her food now . its cold and raining here so ill keep her inside for today with small soft meals. try to get some weight on her. shes got loads of quills growing in so once they feather she'll be able to stay much warmer. ill get a pic later,its facinating!

heres the coop yesterday. we have window in.also have door now ill get a pic soon x

 

[Bogtown Chick]

Fun to see gorgeous coop and how wonderful bombie is getting those pin feathers in!

Steady as she goes with the soft food and birdy bra. Things may be slower with digestion anyways as anesthesia is notorious for slowing or stalling peristalsis. She'll get it back here shell.

 

[pwand]

Sorry to hear her crop was not completely emptied. I feel your frustration and disappointment. . It's amazing how they just dont seem fazed by all the work we've done on them and they bounce back looking at us for the attention. They are an amazing little animal.

Your coop is looking great. You should get hubby to make you rolling nest box. . I built one for my girls and I just love it. I put a black mat on the bottom and the eggs roll forward for me to collect.

 

[shell3]

hi guys yes taking it slow,small soft meals every 3hours or so. crop feels squashy not masively big but liquid feeling. guess thats the mash. hoping for empty tomorrow.

coops done! juar wish i could put some woodchip down! looks bit cold . roosts are wider than hoped but we ran low on materials.will wide perches be fine or not so good?

 

[Sunflowergirl]

I think the wide perches will be perfect. That helps to keep their toes from having to wrap down and freezing. With the wide perch, they can snuggle their feathers on their toes! Hang in there with Bombie! Her being energetic sounds good!

Your new coop looks wonderful!!!

 

[dblea202]

We are experiencing our first sour crop in one of our girls, Piper. We were able to empty her crop and a lot of liquid came out so we are keeping her inside and after emptying the crop she still doesn't seem herself. After she vomited she pooped out a liquid yellow poop. and she doesn't seem very interested in the water or anything. Hoping she is okay

 

[casportpony]

We are experiencing our first sour crop in one of our girls, Piper. We were able to empty her crop and a lot of liquid came out so we are keeping her inside and after emptying the crop she still doesn't seem herself. After she vomited she pooped out a liquid yellow poop. and she doesn't seem very interested in the water or anything. Hoping she is okay

Here is a cute and paste from a post of mine post from:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...mpting-at-night-please-help/100#post_10450219

Here is some info on sour crop. It's from the AAAP Avian Disease Manual.

CANDIDIASIS
(Thrush; moniliasis, crop mycosis, sour crop, muguet, soor, levurosis)
DEFINITION
Candidiasis is a disease of the digestive tract caused by the yeast-like fungus

Candida albicans. The disease generally involves the upper digestive tract and usually occurs as a secondary infection.
EPIDEMIOLOGY
Candida albicans


is a common yeast-like fungus that has been recognized as a commensal organism in
poultry and mammals for many years. Candidiasis has been reported from a variety of avian species, such as,
chickens, turkeys, pigeons, game birds, waterfowl, and geese. In poultry it seldom has been considered a
disease of major importance. Young birds tend to be more susceptible than adult birds although all ages can be
affected. When birds become debilitated or the normal digestive tract flora is altered, the ingestion of fungus in
the feed and water can result in mucosal invasion. The production of a soluble endotoxin may also contribute to
pathogenicity. Common predisposing causes include lack of good sanitation, prolonged treatment with
antibiotics, heavy parasitism, vitamin deficiency, high carbohydrate diets, and immune suppressing or
debilitating infectious diseases.
CLINICAL SIGNS
Signs are non-specific and include, listlessness, inappetence, retarded growth, and ruffled feathers. In
advanced cases or diarrhea. The signs may be masked by the clinical signs of a primary disease. In advanced
cases, the crop may not empty and may become fluid filled. The bird may regurgitate fluid with a sour,
fermentative odor, i.e. the name “sour crop”.
LESIONS
1. Lesions vary greatly in severity. They are more common in the crop, mouth, pharynx and esophagus, but
may involve the proventriculus and, less often, the intestine.
2. The affected mucosa is often diffusely or focally thickened [

Fig. 1; Candidiasis; UC Davis], raised,
corrugated and white, looking like terry cloth [

Fig. 2; Candidiasis; UC Davis]. Lesions may also appear as
proliferative white to gray pseudomembranous or diphtheritic patches and as shallow ulcers. Necrotic
epithelium may slough into the lumen as masses of soft cheesy material.
3. Lesions of a primary predisposing disease may also be present and should be investigated. In particular
one should search for evidence of coccidiosis, parasitism or malnutrition.
DIAGNOSIS
1. Characteristic gross lesions are generally adequate for diagnosis. Histopathologic examination of the
affected mucosa usually will confirm invasion of the tissue by the septate fungal hyphae.
2.

Candida albicans grows readily on Sabouraud's dextrose agar. However, since Candida is commonly
present in normal birds, only the demonstration of massive numbers of colonies is of significance.
CONTROL
1. Practice a high standard of sanitation in the poultry operation. Phenolic disinfectants or iodine preparations
should be used to sanitize equipment.
2. Prevent other diseases or management practices that might debilitate the birds.​

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CANDIDIASIS
3. Avoid over treatment of birds with antibiotics, drugs, coccidiostats, growth stimulants and other agents that
might affect the bacterial flora of the digestive tract.
TREAMENT
1. Copper sulfate at a 1:2000 dilution in drinking water is commonly used both for prevention and treatment
but its value is controversial. Nystatin in feed or water has shown efficacy against candidiasis in turkeys.
2. Routine addition of antifungal drugs to rations probably is a waste of money since elimination of
contributing factors or other diseases usually will prevent candidiasis. However, if sanitation is at fault and
cannot be improved, antifungal drugs may be advisable.​

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[shell3]

dblea202- so sorry to hear your dealing with this too
when you emptied the crop what did the fluid smell like? did it smell yeasty and really strong sour smell? what does the crop feel like ? big balloon filled with fluid? or hard? can you feel any hard masses in it?



well bombies doing ok crop is full but ive given not much food today probly about 4-5 small meals i will feed her now before bed and hope for empty in morning

now freaking out about my other two hens! new coop done and they are in it for tonight, went out to check on them, as i put them in there they didnt go in themselves, and they were sleeping on the bare wooden floor!! such a sorry sight tried putting them on the roost but they got straight down again! its now snowing!! so worried they'll be cold so i put some baby quilts in the tumble dryer so they were warm and put them out on the floor in the coop and moved the girls on top of them then i tucked the quilts up round the edges so they can snuggle. when i went out after they hadnt moved so i took some warm towels out and tucked them in so just their heads are sticking out

they stayed put and seemed quite happy and snuggly. i also put a tiny light out there that runs on batteries it dosnt give off much light but just enough for them to make out where the roosts are if they want to get up there. imagine batteries will only last an hour or so then the light will go out. i do hope they will be warm enough!! such a problem not being able to have any woodchip or bedding of any type! im thinking of getting some of those cat beds, the ones that they go inside bit pyrimid shape. for them to snuggle in. thoughts on that???