Specific Worming question - what to do with the eggs?

[aggie9296]

Piperazine used to be used in this country in humans. It was an old med and the companies did not want to do all the safety testing to keep it approved for human use. Yes there were some issues with allergic reactions and such. But the amount in an egg is going to be lower than the dose formerly used in humans. We use febendazole and similar meds along with ivermectin in humans still. So if you are using those wormers, less concern about eating the eggs. I gave a guy ivermectin the other day for hookworm. A human guy, that is.

They put those warning labels on there because they did not do the human testing to say it's safe. Does not mean it is necessarily dangerous.

 

[dawg53]

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This could possibly be a good example of what I mentioned in my last post regarding wormer resistance. For example only; if your guy owned chickens for quite some time and used fenbendazole (safeguard) or ivomec products to worm his chickens and continuously ate the eggs daily for breakfast....the wormer residue absorbed into his system wouldve made hookworms resistant to both wormers over time. An alternative wormer would have to be used after discovering the fenbendazole and ivermectin were ineffective. Hookworms can be very damaging to the body if not eliminated. Glad he got treated.

 

[aggie9296]

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This could possibly be a good example of what I mentioned in my last post regarding wormer resistance. For example only; if your guy owned chickens for quite some time and used fenbendazole (safeguard) or ivomec products to worm his chickens and continuously ate the eggs daily for breakfast....the wormer residue absorbed into his system wouldve made hookworms resistant to both wormers over time. An alternative wormer would have to be used after discovering the fenbendazole and ivermectin were ineffective. Hookworms can be very damaging to the body if not eliminated. Glad he got treated.

That's why we have so much antibiotic resistance. Overuse in humans and in animal feed.

He only had the cutaneous form. And once he caught and wormed his feral cat colony living in his yard, it has not recurred!

I'm more concerned about the antibiotics in the rest of our food supply than what I have in my yard. I keep my dogs and cats wormed, but have yet to worm my chickens. Still debating the preventative treatment vs waiting until I see something before worming.

 

[dawg53]

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This could possibly be a good example of what I mentioned in my last post regarding wormer resistance. For example only; if your guy owned chickens for quite some time and used fenbendazole (safeguard) or ivomec products to worm his chickens and continuously ate the eggs daily for breakfast....the wormer residue absorbed into his system wouldve made hookworms resistant to both wormers over time. An alternative wormer would have to be used after discovering the fenbendazole and ivermectin were ineffective. Hookworms can be very damaging to the body if not eliminated. Glad he got treated.

That's why we have so much antibiotic resistance. Overuse in humans and in animal feed.

He only had the cutaneous form. And once he caught and wormed his feral cat colony living in his yard, it has not recurred!

I'm more concerned about the antibiotics in the rest of our food supply than what I have in my yard. I keep my dogs and cats wormed, but have yet to worm my chickens. Still debating the preventative treatment vs waiting until I see something before worming.

I agree with you. Chickens can have worms without you seeing them. If their feet touch the ground, they will have worms eventually. If you wait to see them in poop, it's too late...that means there's an infestation and have nowhere else to go but out. That's why it's best to set up a worming schedule...like once a year or semi annually, as you see fit. With our environment...I worm once every 4 months. ETA: Your soil is the same as mine, I live on the coast on the Ga/Fl line.

 

[aggie9296]

Actually, now that I think about it, I might try to get my vet to do fecal floats. Catch it earlier and treat it before it becomes readily apparent. He doesn't see chickens in clinic, but should do the fecals for me.

 

[dawg53]

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Yes, I've done that on occasion. My vet charges $10 per sample. In the long run I think it's cheaper for me to stay on a regular worming schedule...no problem, I have plenty of wormers lol.

 

[aggie9296]

I only have 6 chickens. They check the dogs every 6 months, so I may just take some extra poop in then!

 

[rolffamily]

My local co-op sends out poultry fecal samples to be tested. That's is another alternative for you.