St. John's Wort

[chicknmania]

Aspirin for pain. Baby aspirin can be routinely given for chickens, up to two to three times a day, with no adverse effects. However, in this case, since the Hypericum is supposed
to help with pain, I guess we can discontinue the aspirin? It does seem to be already working, our pullet stood up this morning to get a long drink, and had her legs under her
when she sat back down, instead of them being spraddled. I hope it keeps working.

 

[chooks4life]

Animals seem to mostly cope better with pain than we do, not just hide it better. Since Hypericum interferes with many medications I wouldn't use Aspirin at the same time --- just in case.

I thought it was just a blood thinner. Haven't heard of it being a painkiller, though I'd assume it'd help in cases where blood pressure is contributing to pain, and also in cases of inflammation and similar. But many folks here do seem to use it as a painkiller.

Glad to hear she's doing better. Best wishes.

 

[chicknmania]

She is gaining weight amazingly over the past couple of days, but is only moving around a little better. Still has to flop around, but she can walk a step or two, and is brighter, a little. It would be interesting to hear from more people who started treating their birds with this, to see what the end result was.

Aspirin is an anti-inflammatory and for that reason it reduces pain.

 

[chicknmania]

As soon as you see a sign of improvement with homeopathic remedies, you should stop immediately.

OK, so I guess we will stop as we do see a little improvement but she is far from better. Certainly not well enough to go out. She is just a little better. Will she continue to improve without that stuff? And what if she doesn't?

 

[malaryush]

Sorry, I forgot to return and give an update on my RIR. She came down w/ what I believed was Marek's (exhibited most of the symptoms). I began treating her w/ hypericum perforatum after reading this thread. ( I found them at the Vitamin Shoppe if anyone has difficulty finding them).

I started treatment several days after finding her--took awhile to get the hypericum. She wasn't eating very much, if at all, and I would have to drop water into her mouth b/c she wouldn't drink. I wasn't sure she would make it but every morning when I checked on her she was still hanging in there. One leg was paralyzed, had seized up, and wouldn't move. I worked at moving the leg and bending it (very slightly at first)----aka chicken physical therapy. It took a while but she finally did improve and began eating and drinking. She lost a lot of weight though. I would exercise her legs about 4x a day in the beginning and 3x later on as she improved.

She did get to a point where she got some energy back and would get up and move around. Her leg, at the bend, remained very swollen and she would hop around on the good leg. She began to put some pressure on the bad leg and I was hopeful she would eventually be able to walk on it again. After a couple of months, I moved her back down to a private coop where she could move around better. Her leg hasn't improved from where it was when she began to put pressure on it. She still hops around but moves around well given the circumstances. I keep her separated from the roosters b/c they try to breed her and I don't want further injury.

If you're treating a chicken, don't give up even if you don't see immediate results. As I said, many mornings I expected to find her deceased but she hung in there.

 

[chicknmania]

Sorry, I forgot to return and give an update on my RIR. She came down w/ what I believed was Marek's (exhibited most of the symptoms). I began treating her w/ hypericum perforatum after reading this thread. ( I found them at the Vitamin Shoppe if anyone has difficulty finding them).

I started treatment several days after finding her--took awhile to get the hypericum. She wasn't eating very much, if at all, and I would have to drop water into her mouth b/c she wouldn't drink. I wasn't sure she would make it but every morning when I checked on her she was still hanging in there. One leg was paralyzed, had seized up, and wouldn't move. I worked at moving the leg and bending it (very slightly at first)----aka chicken physical therapy. It took a while but she finally did improve and began eating and drinking. She lost a lot of weight though. I would exercise her legs about 4x a day in the beginning and 3x later on as she improved.

She did get to a point where she got some energy back and would get up and move around. Her leg, at the bend, remained very swollen and she would hop around on the good leg. She began to put some pressure on the bad leg and I was hopeful she would eventually be able to walk on it again. After a couple of months, I moved her back down to a private coop where she could move around better. Her leg hasn't improved from where it was when she began to put pressure on it. She still hops around but moves around well given the circumstances. I keep her separated from the roosters b/c they try to breed her and I don't want further injury.

If you're treating a chicken, don't give up even if you don't see immediate results. As I said, many mornings I expected to find her deceased but she hung in there.

How long did you treat her with the Hypericum? There's something else that looks like Marek's but causes swelling in the joints...I just read about it recently but now I can't remember where. I think it might have been on Poultrypedia. Our pullet doesn't have any swelling at all. We have ordered another holistic treatment for her, and have decided to put her back on the Hypericum on half dose,until the other stuff arrives, as it will be a few days, and she has begun to decline again. WE are going to try Curcumin with Bioperene, but I couldn't find it in the health food stores, or vitamin shops, I had to order it.

 

[chooks4life]

Quote: In cases where there is nervous system damage, recovery can be slow, even taking years. It largely depends on the animal, its diet, environment, and the extent of damage. If she doesn't continue to improve, then she may always be a partial cripple. Having cured what was damaging her doesn't necessarily repair the damage automatically, as you no doubt know. Patience is key. That, and great nutrition, not just basic levels.

I would recommend dried kelp, granulated or powdered, for that extra boost; a pinch per hen per day is the recommended dosage. Some things specifically help with nerve damage too, so it would be worth it looking into it and seeing what you think sounds like a wise choice. One thing the kelp will do is act as a carminative and the peripheral circulation will bring oxygen to every part in higher levels and speed any healing.

Best wishes.

 

[malaryush]

I believe I gave her the hypericum perforatum for about 2 months, twice a day.

 

[chicknmania]

Ok, wow. I might have quit too soon then. Since it says on here that you should stop as soon as you see signs of improvement.....

 

[chicknmania]

Anyway, we started her back on it today. She is still hanging in there and does seem to have good days and bad. Today was a good
day, so far, anyway. I will look for the kelp.

Thank you!