Stabilizing aircells on shipped eggs

[Nksg75]

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[Cot Cot]

OK this is going to be fun. Here is my chart. I only have 9 eggs so the data will be less to compare. I put the eggs in my mini advance this morning. I received the eggs on Thursday morning in the mail. I let them rest at 60degrees. I didn't want to put them in the incubator sooner because I wanted to be home for the possible hatches. My Brinsea mini can only hold 7 eggs with the turner. I took the turner out since I have 9 eggs figuring in 8 days I will be able to take the non fertile eggs out. The question is how many days should I not turn the eggs for? They have been already sitting for 48 hours since I got them. So technically they have rested for 2 days already? Any advice from you experts would be greatly appreciated . Here is my chart for the experiment.

 

[Nksg75]

Wow!! Can I give you my info and you can put it in the program?? Just kidding!!
I would head the advice from earlier on in the thread about waiting the 5-7 days of no turning.
They were probably right about that. I started turning mine at 4-5 days and the next few days I ended up with a ton of blood rings.
Next time I know to sit on my hands a bit longer.
I only have 3 that are growing now.

 

[Cot Cot]

I can share my google doc with you and you can enter the numbers and it will auto calculate for you if you like. . Are you sure that NO turning for 5 days is OK? This seems so against all of the other information with the embryo sticking to the inside of the egg? I did not see any bad air cells when I candled them but I am no expert at this. When I did this once before I had 6 eggs and one hatched out of 6 via shipping eggs. I am a small hobbyist chicken keeper so if I get two hens out of all of this I will be ecstatic. If you message me I can share the Google doc with you and you can have a high tech data sheet. . Just to ask again are you saying that you only have 3 out of 50+ eggs????

 

[Cot Cot]

On other tidbit of information that I found completely amusing and interesting. This came from 1921. Back in the day they were still trying to figure this out.
https://www.nal.usda.gov/exhibits/ipd/frostonchickens/exhibits/show/poultryfarming/item/135
How To Tell The Sex Of An Egg Before Incubation, And How To Tell The Sex Of A Chick When Hatched

 

[Nksg75]

I can share my google doc with you and you can enter the numbers and it will auto calculate for you if you like. . Are you sure that NO turning for 5 days is OK? This seems so against all of the other information with the embryo sticking to the inside of the egg? I did not see any bad air cells when I candled them but I am no expert at this. When I did this once before I had 6 eggs and one hatched out of 6 via shipping eggs. I am a small hobbyist chicken keeper so if I get two hens out of all of this I will be ecstatic. If you message me I can share the Google doc with you and you can have a high tech data sheet. . Just to ask again are you saying that you only have 3 out of 50+ eggs????

I know, I agree it felt really wrong about the no turning, and against everything I have read regarding exercising those embryos. (This is only if those aircells are still wobbly after the first couple of days)
My eggs traveled so far, that they were terrible! I will say that even with the blood rings, the aircell is solid now!! Too late for them, however I am curious how long it took to stabilize the aircells.
How are your aircells?
If they are ok, then by all means start turning them.

 

[Nksg75]

I can share my google doc with you and you can enter the numbers and it will auto calculate for you if you like. . Are you sure that NO turning for 5 days is OK? This seems so against all of the other information with the embryo sticking to the inside of the egg? I did not see any bad air cells when I candled them but I am no expert at this. When I did this once before I had 6 eggs and one hatched out of 6 via shipping eggs. I am a small hobbyist chicken keeper so if I get two hens out of all of this I will be ecstatic. If you message me I can share the Google doc with you and you can have a high tech data sheet. . Just to ask again are you saying that you only have 3 out of 50+ eggs????

Oh, no! I need to make myself more clear. I did hatch 52/60 eggs. I had separated them into my predicted sexes( separate brooder) The 52 chicks were not mine. I hatched them for my cousin who lost her entire flock in one night.
So I kept them for about 4 days before I drove them to her(1 hour away)
I told her about the expierement, and she was going to keep them separate to let me know the results. Her husband didn't know about my expierement and thought they needed more room so he put them in one big brooder together. Looking back I should have marked them, and I wanted to do it, I just didn't have a way to do it. I didn't want to do anything like nail polish because I thought that was not safe, and they may end up pecking and hurting each other.
Then I heard about small zip ties, but was worried that they may leave them on too long, and then hurt them trying to get them off.
I am a little compulsive about caring for animals. It drives me nuts when people don't care for their pets the way I do.
I have my obsessive ways and I know I would worry about the legbands constantly.
After the mix up of the chicks, I decided I needed immediate gratification on any future eggs I hatch.
I want more olive egger, so I ordered autosexing olive egger from pappas poultry. I received 11, and the usps did not hold for pick up like requested.
The aircells were terrible, and it looks like I am down to maybe 2 or 3 viable eggs.
I did another sheet on the 11, I just didn't take a picture of it yet.

 

[Nksg75]

I think I need to find a closer source for autosexing olive egger. I am in Texas, do you know anyone near me that has autosexing olive egger?

 

[Cot Cot]

So what I used is vet wrap tape (they come in a ton of different colors) loosely wrapped on the chicks legs. Does not hurt them at all and worked great. I just ordered my beautiful FBCM eggs from a lady who lives in Hamilton. I will email her and see if she knows of anyone. I am SO SO nervous to leave these eggs just sitting and not getting turned! Today is one full day now in the bator and I have not turned them.