STARTING INCUBATION SOON HELP NEEDED

Here's a copy and paste message I sent someone about my brooder setup stuff :p

Definitely use a red incandescent light - baby chicks love red spots like wounds on other chicks and the red light hides this so there will be less picking at each other which can be a danger until they figure out the food and water :p

Also, a red light allows them to sleep better making less aggressive chicks!

I really recommend a lamp with a clamp but more importantly a dimmer switch - this is so you can simply turn the dial down as the chicks grow instead of raising and lowering the light which can be dangerous and wastes power when the chicks grow a bit and don't need as much heat.

Like this - https://www.amazon.com/Zoo-Med-Deluxe-Dimmable-8-5-Inch/dp/B000FTEQCY

If you're interested, here's what I use/do...

You can find a used aquarium super cheap online or at a garage sale - a huge one for like 10-20 dollars, line the bottom with some newspaper, put paper towel on top, put a piece of wood diagonally on a corner and hang the light by the clamp there, that's what I do for the first several days to make sure they're nice and toasty and close to the food and water, I even block off part of it for the first day or so as they can get lost away from the heat lol!!

I use super shallow water dishes at first like plastic juice jug lids and I sprinkle the ground up food around them for the first few days then offer it around a low Tupperware full of food they can hop into and scratch around in without making a terrible mess lol.

Then when they're strong and need more room, I move them to a super cheap and easy but big and clean brooder which is just a big rectangular box essentially with an open top (you don't want to put a hard lid over quail as they can kill themselves if they flush [jump and fly suddenly]).

It cost a sheet of plywood which is about $15 and some screws, it's 18 inches tall, 2 feet wide and 4 feet long, lined a few inches up at the bottom with that plastic flooring from a leftover home renovation - you can pick up some for a few bucks as flooring places have leftovers they sell for cheap which should fit :)

Then again with newspaper but now I use hay, you can get a huge bale of hay for like 4 or 5 bucks, would last you forever hehe.

I move the wood with the light and put it diagonally in the bigger brooder now. When they start flying out (sooner than you think!) I loosely drape plastic bird betting on top, several dollars for a lot of feet at the hardware store to keep birds off of fruit trees, when they hit it they get slowed down and plop back down in the brooder lol.

It's much safer to do the netting than a hard lid or open where they can get too cold outside of the brooder
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You should feed them *non medicated* game bird food sold at feed stores like TSC, if you can't find that you can use *non medicated* turkey starter crumbs.

The food must be ground up into almost a powder for the first two weeks or so or they can't swallow it.

As for the yellow dome incubator - my broody coturnix hatched some babies outside and then left the eggs a day later and an egg had already pipped.

I put it in the yellow dome incubator but it didn't make any progress in 24 hours even though it was still moving - it couldn't even get the cracked egg pieces off the membrane because the membrane had turned brown and dry as leather when I finally decided to assist it.

I carefully made a hole in the dried brown membrane where I could see its beak pushing and picked off a zip line, all the while holding it in a warm wet paper towel.

I put the egg and wet paper towel in the yellow dome incubator and waited several hours - it didn't make any progress so I took it out with a fresh wet paper towel and tried to safely remove more membrane stopping at any blood vessels. I put it back in and about an hour later it had come out on its own.

Problem was, the poor thing had stuck it's head in a hole in the tray for the yellow dome incubator so I had to take it out, wet, and put it in my aquarium brooder with a sweater half over it and the red brooder light and sprinkled some food but also gave it a baby bird food slurry with a syringe because I knew it had been trapped in the egg for over two days and just had its head stuck so I wanted to increase his chances of bouncing back enough to eat and drink on its own and this morning it's almost all dry and fluffy and shakily pecking at the food sprinkles and even pecked some water when my finger did.

I gave it some more syringe slurry which it seemed to enjoy licking it up from the end of its beak and got into a rhythm in my hand :p

So that's my experience with the yellow dome incubator so far - it gets warm, it has a fan, it has humidity although I have no idea how much, I know that putting anything wet like my paper towel raises the humidity which was my intention to dry and rehydrate the pipped egg membrane.

I do have some hygrometers in the mail so I'll be curious to see what the humidity actually is but I may just use the yellow dome incubator as the heart of my DIY hatcher - at the very least I'll be getting a small plastic mesh canvas to place over those holes so baby quail don't get stuck again
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Thank you for your time and effort writing that! (lol) But now my parents were like you should get chicks instead, so now i'm getting 50 baby quails..... Yep, any advice on that? Oh and btw your dome incubator review didn't go to waste because I'm still going to incubate my finch eggs. So yeah...would this be good for their food when they come? http://www.petsmart.com/supplies/fo...-36-catid-400051?var_id=36-3232&_t=pfm=search
Can I use this for the light? http://www.petsmart.com/bird/coops-...VCHLLSy?_t=pfm=search&SearchTerm=chicken+lamp This is the bulb http://www.petsmart.com//WFS/PETUS/...-0?green=585684E4-70B5-5778-0CEA-B3988635966B
Ok, well thanks!
 
Pkhunter, is it safe to put them on the wire? I always heard it'll make their feet get stuck or deformed?? These have droppings stuck all over their feet.. They are holding one foot up like its hurt or is it just from the poo??? As soon as they drop a spot they run through it.. Ughhhh Ive went back to the paper towels & I guess since they got use to the while sheet they don't realize they can eat it again.. Lol. My it's such a time consuming catastrophe at times!!!
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Here is what you do if you are only hatching a few.Go to walmart and buy yourself a big rubbermaid tote with a lid and a roll of.25 hardware cloth.Cot the wire the same size as the outside diameter of the tote.Roll the sides of the wire down making a tray and place it in the bottom of the tote.You should have a .50 gap between the wire and the bottom of yhe tote.
 
Pkhunter, is it safe to put them on the wire? I always heard it'll make their feet get stuck or deformed?? These have droppings stuck all over their feet.. They are holding one foot up like its hurt or is it just from the poo??? As soon as they drop a spot they run through it.. Ughhhh Ive went back to the paper towels & I guess since they got use to the while sheet they don't realize they can eat it again.. Lol. My it's such a time consuming catastrophe at times!!!
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All my birds go on 1/4" wire and I hatch over 100 chicks every week. No problems with their feet getting stuck or deformed and no poop to clean off. If you put them on 1/2" wire to soon they can get their foot caught in the wire I usually don't move them till at least 10 days old. My brooders sit on a tray that I clean every couple of days
 
I put the day old chicks on paper towel for 1 or 2 days, and remove the paper towel and let them on 1/4 X 1/4 inch hard wood cloth from day 2 or 3 until day 21, then move to cage of 1/2 X 1 inch wire at bottom. Works for 2 hatches so far. I'm having eggs starting from day 43.
 
Wow... That's good to know.. What kind of box or container do you have them in so that the wire is up enough for the droppings to go below?? I'm currently using totes & no way to put wire under them to be able to get under it & clean it??
 
Hey no problem :)

I would not recommend 50 chicks for your first time unless you do two complete brooders - with that many chicks in a space, some could get weakened/suffocated if they pile for heat or confusion, also, there are fifty chances for something to go wrong and fifty butts pooping and you're new to quail so I would start with 10-20 :p

Around here a very good price for chicks is $2.00 and that would be $100.00 for 50 plus two heat lamps and brooders plus several cages or one ginormous cage so if you have the resources there's no problem but could get overwhelming
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That quail food doesn't list the percentage of protein - I don't know if it would be a complete diet so that would have to be checked - also if you feed seed and stuff the chicks are going to need grit to digest it and I'm not sure if new chicks would eat seed - mine in the aviary tried pecking a few times and even though the momma quail was eating it, they didn't go for it.

You can get a huge bag of game bird crumble food for like 15 bucks at feed stores - ground up, they don't need grit for that and it's balanced nutrition.

That lamp would work, it says for small quantity of chicks but doesn't specify so not sure if it would be sufficient for 50, also says there's a compatible bulb for it so I'm not sure if it would be compatible with anything else?
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always best to get two lights in case one breaks you can just switch it out immediately :)

Also, do you have a way to safely mount it and adjust the height to change the temperature? If not, again, I would recommend a lamp with a clamp and a dimmer.

Good luck on your finch eggs
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