Still unsure if hen or roo

I remember this bird.
Both this one and the other white one were very confusing. Extreme lack of wattle growth, but male feather colours.
Still voting male.
Yah I posted a couple weeks ago, still no crowing etc, but the comb is a bit more red and waddles looks a bit longer. I'm so impatient 😭
 
Hens can have spurs too, so that's not really an indication as to what gender the bird is.
Extremely odd.
The other one had practically no colour in the comb or wattles but the wings clearly had red leakage.
Are they definitely that age?
I'm totally clueless on age. The day I got them I was told about 12 weeks old. This is a pic of the day I brought them home on June 14th. So if I go by what he said, they would be around 20 weeks but they should be showing signs of wanting to lay or crow by 20 weeks
 

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I'm totally clueless on age. The day I got them I was told about 12 weeks old. This is a pic of the day I brought them home on June 14th. So if I go by what he said, they would be around 20 weeks but they should be showing signs of wanting to lay or crow by 20 weeks

Not necessarily.
Some of my pullets laid at 8 mo, and I had a cockerel that began crowing at 10+ mo.
They actually look a bit stunted to me.
Going by combing, everything screams pullet. Going by feathering, everything screams male. I always prefer to go by pattern.
 
I could not tell from photos.
Compare redness of comb and wattles to known hens of same age. A roosters comb and wattles at 12 weeks will be best red. A hens comb and wattles don't turn red until she is laying, around 5 to 6 months old or older.
The rounded tail feathers look more like a female, but I have had roosters with rounded tail feathers at 12 weeks old. Look at the hackle and saddle feathers. If these have a rounded tip, hen. If long and pointed like an arrow, rooster.
Roosters have much smaller and many more hackle feathers than hens do.
There are some great YouTube videos on how to sex young chickens from hatch to 4 months old. If you compare redness of comb and hackle (neck) feathers on birds you know the sex of you will soon learn to tell the difference.
 

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