Stopped Laying Lethargic Weight Loss but stable

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I’m writing today as we are slightly concerned about one of our 32 week old White Rocks, named Crystal.
When we got her she was laying consistently every day, like the rest of the flock. She started to show slight broodiness after about a month, when we would find her just staying in the nesting box, but we could push her out, she would immediately eat, and never try to nest again that day. She didn’t pluck any feathers, show aggression, no other signs of broodiness.
A few weeks ago she stopped laying, although we had one day in there where she laid just a yolk, then a couple days later, there was evidence of a leather egg that had been eaten. Since then, nothing, and she no longer visits the nesting box.
She also seems to have lost some weight, in comparison with her flock mates. She still forages, drinks water, and dust bathes, but definitely naps more, and is somewhat lethargic.
The weather has been extremely hot in the past month, so we have been doing what we can to keep the flock cool (adding ice to their water, mister, spraying down roof of coop etc). The rest of the flock seems hot but fine.
We are feeding layer mash, but are going to start introducing fermented feed tomorrow to hopefully help her get the most nutrition out of her feed.
We have inspected her a couple of times, her croup seems to look more pronounced, but when we felt it, it seemed soft and not impacted. Her vent is pink and normal looking. We have checked for mites. Mosquitos are definitely present but we are trying to manage them within the coop....
Her poops are a bit watery, and her butt does get a bit messy, but I have read the hot weather might be a factor? No evidence of worms that I can see.
She just seems smaller, and almost hunched down (she doesn’t extend her neck much). I’m including a photo of her on the right, and one of the others on the left (which seems more upright). She has always had a very floppy comb, so do not be alarmed by that :) Colour of face and comb seem normal.
Would love any advice as we are new to this. Our vet doesn’t deal with chickens so we are kind of on our own over here...Maybe she is totally fine, but I would hate to see her waste away.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
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32 week old White Rocks, named Crystal.
When we got her she was laying consistently every day
She started to show slight broodiness after about a month, when we would find her just staying in the nesting box, but we could push her out, she would immediately eat, and never try to nest again that day.
A few weeks ago she stopped laying, although we had one day in there where she laid just a yolk, then a couple days later, there was evidence of a leather egg that had been eaten
seems to have lost some weight
naps more, and is somewhat lethargic.
weather has been extremely hot in the past month
We have inspected her a couple of times, her croup seems to look more pronounced, but when we felt it, it seemed soft and not impacted
poops are a bit watery, and her butt does get a bit messy, but I have read the hot weather might be a factor? No evidence of worms that I can see.
seems smaller, and almost hunched down
Welcome To BYC

Crystal is a White Leghorn, not a White Plymouth Rock, just so you know:) (both of those ladies are Leghorns)
Makes no difference, she's not feeling too well it seems. White Leghorns can have floppy combs, but hers is more flat and paler.
With her stopping laying eggs at such a young age - it's concerning.

How long have you had her?
The laying just a yolk (shell less egg?), then I would worry she's starting to have some reproductive issues. If you feel her abdomen below the vent between the legs, what is that like - hard, soft and pliable, fluid filled like a tight balloon? Compare her to the Left one in your photo.

You also mention her crop - check it when she goes to roost - it should be full/have food in there. Check it again first thing in the morning before she eats/drinks - it should be empty/flat. If it's not emptying overnight, then I would start treating for a crop issue. Keep in mind that a crop issue if often a symptom of an underlying condition - some common causes are reproductive disorders, worms, infection and Coccidiosis.

Are you providing oyster shell free choice?


https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...w-to-know-which-one-youre-dealing-with.73607/
 
Hey thanks for the reply!!

We have had Crystal and the rest of the Leghorns for about 3.5 months. We purchased them as 18 week pullets. We were told they were White Rock - so thank you for clarifying the breed...

I looked at a photo I have of her from about 2 months ago, and although her comb had a flop, I guess I hadn't realized how floppy it had become...

We compared her abdomen to the other's, and didn't notice any difference. Didn't feel an egg, and consistencies were the same (like "firm jello" is how we would describe it).

Now, it's the middle of the day, but just since we already had her, we gave her crop a squeeze, and there was a little bit of food in there. We will check it before bed, and then again the the morning. Because we have her inside, we can control bed time/wake time. We may put her to bed earlier as well, as we have read this can help with recovery.

She did eat this morning, and again just now when we put her back. We added some baking soda to her water to hopefully get some electrolytes into her, as recommended by Chicken Chick.

When she was still integrated within the flock, we put oyster shells on top of their food in the morning. Should we move to having a separate bowl of oyster shells so they can opt to have it if they need? Also, during this quarantine, should she have access?

Thank you again... feeling less alone :)

I took a look at a poop chart linked in an article about floppy combs, and the poop associated with Egg Peritonitis
 
When she was still integrated within the flock, we put oyster shells on top of their food in the morning. Should we move to having a separate bowl of oyster shells so they can opt to have it if they need? Also, during this quarantine, should she have access?
I would provide oyster shell free choice.

Is she that unwell that she can't stay with the flock? Were they picking at her?
 
Ok will provide oyster shells on the side as of tomorrow!
The flock definitely was not picking on her. But it’s been incredibly hot (it’s been 40C/104F with humidity), and with her not eating/drinking much, we thought we would bring her in for a night or two to get her fed up, and also that way we can observe her poops and energy. We want to keep her inside as short a time as possible so as not to disrupt the pecking order.
She has eaten a good amount today, and has been drinking water, so I think tomorrow will be informative.
 

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