ParanoidChicken
Chirping
Hello,
I just got 2 hens from a local flock a few days ago.
a Red star/Production Red and a Amber Link
They seemed very healthy and still do for the most part.
But the red is sneezing once in a while and when she is worked up over something I can hear congestion.
If she is calm for a long period of time. She doesn't sneeze often, but still does once in a great while, and I don't hear any weird breathing noise.
I asked the person I got them from about it, and she said it could be due to her changing environment. They were in a fairly large outdoor space.
I read somewhere that they could react to laundry detergent? This is kinda important to know as They do tend to rest on things washed in the laundry.
But again, only the red is showing any respiratory weirdness.
She is still shy and skittish a bit. So trying to get close does work her up if she isn't the initiator.
Once in a while she will climb up on my lap and is calm as ever and that is when I don't really hear any noise.
When I do hear it, it seems pretty growly for lack of a better way to put it.
I lightly put my head on her back to listen to her lungs and I was unsure if the noise was just so low of a frequency that it was able to travel really easy through her body, or if some of it comes from within. But when I listen at her beak it definitely sounds to be right there, not muffled as tho it was traveling to get to my ear. If this makes any sense.
At the end of the day when she is winding down for sleep, her tail and butt seem to move with her breathing, but it doesn't seem labored.
The Amber shares no signs that I previously mentioned. no breathing issues all seems fine. The following she does share:
First the red had a lightening of the comb and waddles, like they are mildly dryer than she came here with initially.
Just today I noticed a slight lightening on the Amber but very faint change. (Yes I am watching for pretty much any potential indicator that could possibly tell me more.)
Both started the fade on one side with the other still being more vibrant. Tho I do notice this coming and going, sometimes it reverses and then reverses again.
I have no idea why the waddles and combs would change, they get plenty of water the space is in a good temp range.
Aside from this there is zero other signs of any other ailment that I scoured the internet and posts here on.
No discharge, poop is normal and regular.
Altho from a poop chart I noticed quite a wide range of "normals" that all their droppings seem to resemble.
I do wonder how often to expect or accept as normal for the intestinal lining bits to come out with droppings?
#8 image in normals here http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=ddca3721a9857687b88cc4a15d9763c4&topic=17568.0
once in a while they have a close resemblance to 1st and 2nd under Ceacal.
Seems to very closely resemble what I am mentioning except no black bits.
And sometimes a watery one, but the temp in house never reaches over 70F and they eat and drink pretty often.
I saw somewhere that one indicator of worms is a huge appetite, weight loss, common watery droppings and fecal matter stuck to eggs.
This doesn't seem to fit and her eggs are spotless.
Her appetite seems normal and maybe slightly higher than the Amber but not much if at all.
They also regularly drink and have clean water all the time. I check it pretty much every other hour or so to make sure it is clean.
Her tail is up like it should be, during the day the wings are sitting snug to their sides and they are alert and attentive to everything.
Always talking and active. They lay eggs everyday and the eggs are perfect. They seem to lay the eggs within the same 6 hour window everyday so far.
The red seems to be doing just fine passing food, her crop doesn't really have any issues at all emptying.
I thought she might have an issue the other night when she started yawning a bit, so I massaged her crop for a while once I got her to let me.. (She relaxed and nearly went to sleep)
Then it was fine for the most part. Only 1 yawn but a small one after that.
From what I see on various disease/infection writeups is she is not showing enough signs to justify a vet visit. But the noise in her breathing does prompt my concern.
I recently lost a hen in September that was very dear to me and I am a bit paranoid at this point (hence the name here).
Am I justified paying so close attention and changing thoughts as I see new information and potential indications that come and go?
Or should I just wait to see if this passes or develops any more obvious signs?
I do not want to be a last min shopper and rely on the time it takes to get supplies for her life.
I would like to know what I should be getting as far as emergency meds/treatments for "at the ready" use.
But for on a limited budget. I can't just buy every known medication and be prepared for all potential outcomes at once.
I won't do a skin injection for meds. I read horror stories on that. Not even going to attempt it.
I am not afraid of the injection by mouth tho. But she may fight me quite a bit.
If I think of anything else or see anything else I'll add to the thread.
I just got 2 hens from a local flock a few days ago.
a Red star/Production Red and a Amber Link
They seemed very healthy and still do for the most part.
But the red is sneezing once in a while and when she is worked up over something I can hear congestion.
If she is calm for a long period of time. She doesn't sneeze often, but still does once in a great while, and I don't hear any weird breathing noise.
I asked the person I got them from about it, and she said it could be due to her changing environment. They were in a fairly large outdoor space.
I read somewhere that they could react to laundry detergent? This is kinda important to know as They do tend to rest on things washed in the laundry.
But again, only the red is showing any respiratory weirdness.
She is still shy and skittish a bit. So trying to get close does work her up if she isn't the initiator.
Once in a while she will climb up on my lap and is calm as ever and that is when I don't really hear any noise.
When I do hear it, it seems pretty growly for lack of a better way to put it.
I lightly put my head on her back to listen to her lungs and I was unsure if the noise was just so low of a frequency that it was able to travel really easy through her body, or if some of it comes from within. But when I listen at her beak it definitely sounds to be right there, not muffled as tho it was traveling to get to my ear. If this makes any sense.
At the end of the day when she is winding down for sleep, her tail and butt seem to move with her breathing, but it doesn't seem labored.
The Amber shares no signs that I previously mentioned. no breathing issues all seems fine. The following she does share:
First the red had a lightening of the comb and waddles, like they are mildly dryer than she came here with initially.
Just today I noticed a slight lightening on the Amber but very faint change. (Yes I am watching for pretty much any potential indicator that could possibly tell me more.)
Both started the fade on one side with the other still being more vibrant. Tho I do notice this coming and going, sometimes it reverses and then reverses again.
I have no idea why the waddles and combs would change, they get plenty of water the space is in a good temp range.
Aside from this there is zero other signs of any other ailment that I scoured the internet and posts here on.
No discharge, poop is normal and regular.
Altho from a poop chart I noticed quite a wide range of "normals" that all their droppings seem to resemble.
I do wonder how often to expect or accept as normal for the intestinal lining bits to come out with droppings?
#8 image in normals here http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=ddca3721a9857687b88cc4a15d9763c4&topic=17568.0
once in a while they have a close resemblance to 1st and 2nd under Ceacal.
Seems to very closely resemble what I am mentioning except no black bits.
And sometimes a watery one, but the temp in house never reaches over 70F and they eat and drink pretty often.
I saw somewhere that one indicator of worms is a huge appetite, weight loss, common watery droppings and fecal matter stuck to eggs.
This doesn't seem to fit and her eggs are spotless.
Her appetite seems normal and maybe slightly higher than the Amber but not much if at all.
They also regularly drink and have clean water all the time. I check it pretty much every other hour or so to make sure it is clean.
Her tail is up like it should be, during the day the wings are sitting snug to their sides and they are alert and attentive to everything.
Always talking and active. They lay eggs everyday and the eggs are perfect. They seem to lay the eggs within the same 6 hour window everyday so far.
The red seems to be doing just fine passing food, her crop doesn't really have any issues at all emptying.
I thought she might have an issue the other night when she started yawning a bit, so I massaged her crop for a while once I got her to let me.. (She relaxed and nearly went to sleep)
Then it was fine for the most part. Only 1 yawn but a small one after that.
From what I see on various disease/infection writeups is she is not showing enough signs to justify a vet visit. But the noise in her breathing does prompt my concern.
I recently lost a hen in September that was very dear to me and I am a bit paranoid at this point (hence the name here).
Am I justified paying so close attention and changing thoughts as I see new information and potential indications that come and go?
Or should I just wait to see if this passes or develops any more obvious signs?
I do not want to be a last min shopper and rely on the time it takes to get supplies for her life.
I would like to know what I should be getting as far as emergency meds/treatments for "at the ready" use.
But for on a limited budget. I can't just buy every known medication and be prepared for all potential outcomes at once.
I won't do a skin injection for meds. I read horror stories on that. Not even going to attempt it.
I am not afraid of the injection by mouth tho. But she may fight me quite a bit.
If I think of anything else or see anything else I'll add to the thread.