Stress free vs store bought?

[Sonoran Silkies]

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DEAD

Although counting the merit of being funny I don't see how the comment adds much of anything to the conversation. I'm to stressed out to explain terminology that is self explanatory.

However, it was not, as evidenced by those of us who had no idea what you meant. I stand by my statement that using the term "stress" is a poor choice; there are so many better terms or phrases.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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If you know nothing but living in a small cramped cage, you expect nothing different; it is what you consider normal. The stress of a near hawk attack is probably significantly higher than that of living in cramped quarters. Yes, it is probably less enduring, but I hypothesize that if you could hook a flock of chickens up to monitors, the heart rate and other factors that are measured when considering stress increases far more significantly when under attack than with a steady "ration" of cramped quarters. Questions to answer would be how long after near attacks do the stress indicators remain high, and is there a significant different in a near attack when no bird was taken versus one in which the subject was not taken, but another flock member (or members) were?

Once again, I am not advocating stuffed battery cages. I believe a good diet, access to grass and space are best for the birds, and undoubtedly make their eggs (and meat, although I do not eat chicken EVER) of significantly better quality.

 

[al6517]

Oh please............ this topic just goes to show that most of the new age chickens fanciers are more concerned that their little fluffy butt's should be on a regular mental therapy regimine, I think if more folks just concentrated on the NORMAL care of their chickens they would be just dandy. Most of you are really just concerned with your own mental health when it comes to your birds. Sounds as though too many of you are watching way too much Oprah LOL.

AL

 

[HarlansHollowFarms]

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Hey...I watch Oprah....and my thought of OH PLEASE was exactly like yours!

I know, you secretly watch Oprah also!

 

[al6517]

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Hey...I watch Oprah....and my thought of OH PLEASE was exactly like yours!

I know, you secretly watch Oprah also!

LOL Kudo's hehehe perhaps DR Phill........... the male anti christ.

AL

 

[Judy]

I'd never represent my eggs as stress free. There is truth in the idea that stress free = dead. Actually it's easy to argue that some stress is necessary for life.

If I were considering buying eggs marketed as stress free, I'm afraid I'd have to investigate what the seller means. If that wasn't possible I'd just consider it a marketing ploy and not necessarily indicative of decent living conditions at all.

And I definitely see the point HarlandsHollowFarms is making.

 

[HarlansHollowFarms]

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Hey...I watch Oprah....and my thought of OH PLEASE was exactly like yours!

I know, you secretly watch Oprah also!

LOL Kudo's hehehe perhaps DR Phill........... the male anti christ.

AL

 

[Orchid]

I think people tend to anthropomorphize way too much, which leads them to believing that a chicken's stress is like a person's stress. People "stress" because they worry; chickens do not worry. They live in the moment. If that moment contains a hawk trying to eat them, another hen pecking them, a rooster trying to mate with them, or another rooster challenging them, then that moment is stressful in the sense of an increased heart rate, etc. It's not stressful in the sense of "Oh my god, that hawk just tried to eat me, now I'm going to have to worry about hawks eating me for the rest of my LIFE!" or in the sense of "I'm in this little tiny cage and another hen just pecked me, I'm going to be pecked for the rest of my LIFE!" (That last one is probably more along the lines of thought of some husbands, though.

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Do battery hens have some deplorable living conditions? Yes they do, and I don't agree with forcing them to live that way. But it's incorrect to assume that because a chicken has good living conditions, its life is therefore "stress free". It's just life as a chicken.

 

[Judy]

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Well said.

 

[arabianequine]

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Hey...I watch Oprah....and my thought of OH PLEASE was exactly like yours!

I know, you secretly watch Oprah also!

LOL Kudo's hehehe perhaps DR Phill........... the male anti christ.

AL

I don't watch oprah but I do watch dr phil everyday.....lmao. He never talks about this stuff though.