Stung by craigslist chickens, sick birds

[sbhkma]

Wazine is only effective against one type of worm. Valbazen is more effective and due to the way it works more slowly, is safer for your birds. Yes, toss the eggs. You'll deworm, wait 10 days and deworm again. You'll toss eggs during the treatment and for 2 weeks afterwards.

 

[IdahoPrepper]

OK so this is my plan along with NU-stock for the legs and dusting/cleaning the coop.

" It would be a good idea to deworm with Albendazole (Valbazen suspension), give vitamins-electrolyte-probiotic dispersible powder in waterers for 2 days, then treat for Coccidiosis for 5-7 days using Amprolium in waterers. 10 days after the first deworming, you should deworm again. Treat the legs 2-3 times a week with a good penetrating oil that will get underneath the scales. Work it in while wearing a pair of nitrile gloves. Nu-stock, castor oil, linseed oil work well".

Do I need to do anything to the backyard? Is this all I need to do? I will examine all birds for any other issues. If I find lice on birds I will post back and need advice. It seems some of the posts here are old and the advice is not valid any longer.

Thanks for the help.........

IP

 

[IdahoPrepper]

OK well plan B. Those meds are over 135 dollars and only one place in town has them. Not spending that much cash on one chicken.
Is there any cheap way to do this?

 

[dawg53]

Plan B: Worm them Safeguard liquid goat wormer; 1/2cc orally undiluted to each chicken for 5 days straight. No need to worm again in 10 days. Use vaseline for the scaly leg mites. But first, soak the legs in warm salt water, use an old toothbrush to gently scrub debris from between the scales while soaking. Then pat dry with a rag and apply the vaseline. It will take a long time for the legs to heal, just keep applying the vaseline as needed. After worming the birds, give them buttermilk mixed with scrambled eggs to eat. Buttermilk will slow the effects of cocci if in fact they are overloaded with it. In the meantime save some money so you can order corid.
Here's where you can order safeguard or check your feed store:
http://www.jefferspet.com/products/safeguard-dewormer-goats-125ml

 

[IdahoPrepper]

Plan B: Worm them Safeguard liquid goat wormer; 1/2cc orally undiluted to each chicken for 5 days straight. No need to worm again in 10 days. Use vaseline for the scaly leg mites. But first, soak the legs in warm salt water, use an old toothbrush to gently scrub debris from between the scales while soaking. Then pat dry with a rag and apply the vaseline. It will take a long time for the legs to heal, just keep applying the vaseline as needed. After worming the birds, give them buttermilk mixed with scrambled eggs to eat. Buttermilk will slow the effects of cocci if in fact they are overloaded with it. In the meantime save some money so you can order corid.
Here's where you can order safeguard or check your feed store:
http://www.jefferspet.com/products/safeguard-dewormer-goats-125ml

Thanks.....

Its the valbezen thats expensive. They have the powdered form of corid for 18 dollars. The valbenzen is only stocked in 1 liter (which is a 200 year supply for my chickens) and is close to $95 with tax. The nustock cost me $15 dollars and gloves and brushes cost me 10 dollars. Add that to a 70 mile trip to town and its about 135 dollars for everything.

This bird I have thats not eating and lethargic, does she have worms or is it cocci or both? All the other birds (5) are fine, why arent they sick too? If they had the valbenzen in half size I would buy it but I really cannot afford the almost 100 dollar price tag.

Should I just cull the one sick bird and move forward? All the other birds seem fine and are laying up to 4 eggs per day now.

If I want to order it from India or China I can get it for 9 dollars.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...0.XAlbendazole.TRS0&_nkw=Albendazole&_sacat=0

 

[Michael Apple]

OK so this is my plan along with NU-stock for the legs and dusting/cleaning the coop.

" It would be a good idea to deworm with Albendazole (Valbazen suspension), give vitamins-electrolyte-probiotic dispersible powder in waterers for 2 days, then treat for Coccidiosis for 5-7 days using Amprolium in waterers. 10 days after the first deworming, you should deworm again. Treat the legs 2-3 times a week with a good penetrating oil that will get underneath the scales. Work it in while wearing a pair of nitrile gloves. Nu-stock, castor oil, linseed oil work well".

Do I need to do anything to the backyard? Is this all I need to do? I will examine all birds for any other issues. If I find lice on birds I will post back and need advice. It seems some of the posts here are old and the advice is not valid any longer.

Thanks for the help.........

IP

You're welcome. Well draining soil, weeds and vegetation cut back, a dry coop environment with good ventilation, not allowing the accumulation of droppings under roosts or within the confines of the yard, removal of wild bird nests on property, control of rodent populations, preventing wild birds from pilfering poultry feed troughs, clean water up high enough to keep from getting fouled, are all things you can do to prevent problems you are experiencing.
I've found doing a thorough cleaning by removing old shavings every 3-4 months, treating coops with an effective emulsified concentrate premise insecticide will keep mites/lice off the birds.

 

[IdahoPrepper]

You're welcome. Well draining soil, weeds and vegetation cut back, a dry coop environment with good ventilation, not allowing the accumulation of droppings under roosts or within the confines of the yard, removal of wild bird nests on property, control of rodent populations, preventing wild birds from pilfering poultry feed troughs, clean water up high enough to keep from getting fouled, are all things you can do to prevent problems you are experiencing.
I've found doing a thorough cleaning by removing old shavings every 3-4 months, treating coops with an effective emulsified concentrate premise insecticide will keep mites/lice off the birds.

Rodger that and thanks again.

Yeah I have all that including a brand new, now infected, coop. The guy I bought them from had none of that.

NEVER buy your used chickens from a guy on craigslist with no teeth living in a trailer by the railroad tracks!

Run down pens, 2 inches of mud and chicken poop. I had no idea the mess I was in for.

 

[Michael Apple]

Rodger that and thanks again.

Yeah I have all that including a brand new, now infected, coop. The guy I bought them from had none of that.

NEVER buy your used chickens from a guy on craigslist with no teeth living in a trailer by the railroad tracks!

Run down pens, 2 inches of mud and chicken poop. I had no idea the mess I was in for.

Well, those chickens are in good hands now, and you may be surprised to see how well they bounce back after being properly cared for. I've contacted a few people in the past out of curiosity of what they were selling on CL. The ones I contacted were either lying or had no idea what they were talking about. Neglect is abuse, and I have no mercy even for irresponsible people. Those people giving away puppies on CL likely don't care they could end up as bait dogs for Pit fights. Every one of them should be flagged and reported.

 

[IdahoPrepper]

Well, those chickens are in good hands now, and you may be surprised to see how well they bounce back after being properly cared for. I've contacted a few people in the past out of curiosity of what they were selling on CL. The ones I contacted were either lying or had no idea what they were talking about. Neglect is abuse, and I have no mercy even for irresponsible people. Those people giving away puppies on CL likely don't care they could end up as bait dogs for Pit fights. Every one of them should be flagged and reported.

Thanks......

Would you happen to know if the Valbazen comes in a smaller then 500ml container. I need something in the 120ml/250ml range to save $$$$. Any idea if my sick chicken has worms or coc? The coc treatment is much cheaper. Can I do that one first or do I need to worm first? Im worried about the one bird with her head in her wing. All stores were closed here in Bible belt N Idaho today so no meds today.

 

[Michael Apple]

Thanks......

Would you happen to know if the Valbazen comes in a smaller then 500ml container. I need something in the 120ml/250ml range to save $$$$. Any idea if my sick chicken has worms or coc? The coc treatment is much cheaper. Can I do that one first or do I need to worm first? Im worried about the one bird with her head in her wing. All stores were closed here in Bible belt N Idaho today so no meds today.

Valbazen suspension only comes in a 500 ml bottle. You could buy Safe-guard suspension for about half the price but it is a pain to worm 5 days in a row with Fenbendazole. It is hard to tell but endoparasites and ectoparasites seem to be the most common problem. It is important that a sick bird stays hydrated. You should take that lethargic one with her head tucked under her wing and bring her inside in a large crate. Feed her moistened feed and get her to drink water with poultry vitamins-electrolytes. be careful not to aspirate the bird.Look over her skin for mites/lice, feel the crop to see if it is full or empty. Check the condition of droppings (well formed or watery).