Subordinate rooster now crowing/fighting.

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I have a flock that has 3 main roosters (Buff Orp, Black Cochin, New Hampshire), and a Dark Cornish breeding rooster who is in a pen with his 2 ladies but inside the run. There are 10 young cockerels who aren't challanging the roosters yet (Black/Blue Cochins) that I need to rehome or send to freezer camp (they are just shy of 5 months). I have about 30-40 ladies for them (I can't remember the exact number at the moment), with 8 more Cochin pullets coming up to breeding age.

The Buff and the Black Cochin rooster are almost 1.5 years old. The New Hampshire and the Dark Cornish are 1 year 3 months. Since about 9 months ago, the Buff and the Cochin have been with the main flock. The Buff was dominant and the Cochin was subordinate and never crowed and only cautiously mated. I added the New Hampshire about a month ago when I whittled my Bachelor flock down to just him. There was a little adjustment tussles, but nothing major. Yesterday, I was outside and I heard a crow I didn't recognize. My Black Cochin was crowing. A little while later I saw him fighting with the Buff and the New Hampshire. Later that day I saw him trying to fight the Dark Cornish through the wire of his pen.

Thankfully, no roosters have been hurt. I select for temperament and one of the things I check for is that the roosters I keep don't persistently chase down another rooster and harm him. I'm fine with pecking order squabbles where no one gets hurt, that's only normal. These fights I saw only lasted1-2 min with most of that time being spent staring at each other with hackles raised and only a few flying kicks being delivered. I'm wondering why my Cochin is challenging the status quo now. Is it that he is reaching full maturity now? Or could all the up-and-coming cockerels be pushing him to secure his place?
 
'Boys will be boys" and I think both issues are at play here. I also have three or four roosters in my flock, and youngsters coming up. None of my babies is starting to crow, but that will add to the drama, for sure.
This may be a single episode, and calm down again, or not. If not, either separate flocks and housing, or eliminate somebody.
For many years, I had two breeding groups. Two years ago, madness struck and there are now three breeding groups, only separated when purebred eggs are to be hatched. It's worked out for me so far, but there's no way I could add more!
Mary
 
'Boys will be boys" and I think both issues are at play here. I also have three or four roosters in my flock, and youngsters coming up. None of my babies is starting to crow, but that will add to the drama, for sure.
This may be a single episode, and calm down again, or not. If not, either separate flocks and housing, or eliminate somebody.
For many years, I had two breeding groups. Two years ago, madness struck and there are now three breeding groups, only separated when purebred eggs are to be hatched. It's worked out for me so far, but there's no way I could add more!
Mary
I'm going to be getting rid of my Buff at some point (selling or freezer this fall). I'm switching over to Chocolates instead of Buffs. I'm trying to decide if I want to keep the Cochins or just go with the Chocolate Orps. Decisions, decisions, decisions.

I have a bad case of chicken math and an incubator. Watch out!
 
I'm thinking it's what Folly said, it's going to happen. They're males who need to work to keep their rank in the flock. Maybe he was bored and wanted something to do?
It could've been as simple as he was mad at something and took it out on everyone he saw. I've seen that happen amongst my flocks. Just keep an eye on it, it could last a few days and then be done with. Watch your top rooster, he may really not like a low ranker trying to show off ;)
 
It seems you understand that responsible chicken math includes division and subtraction as well as addition and multiplication when appropriate.

Not sure what is going on with that Black Cochin. It's possible adding that NH changed the dynamics enough that he decided he might try to take over or maybe he is defending his secondary status. Maybe at a year and a half he hit a maturity stage, call it a mid-life crisis, that makes him want to try. Maybe he sensed a weakness in the Buff that makes him think he has a chance to take over. That could be physical or maybe as he ages his desire to be number one is decreasing.
 
I like the idea of a rooster 'mid life' crisis. Well said, @Ridgerunner. In my experience large fowl cochins have been slow at maturing. That plus a possible shake up in flock dynamics has given him an opportunity to advance his position. Keep an eye on things as his attitude may escalate.
I'm also considering getting rid of my New Hampshire. He hasn't attacked me yet, but he wanted to attack the water jug I was carrying around in my hand yesterday.

He didn't back off until some of the water somehow got poured over him.:idunno
 
That’s sucks,I love My New Hampshire.My Cochin bantam and New Hampshire bicker every so often,generally beginning of spring.Its normal for roosters to chase others off and it sounds like your boys are pretty normal.
New Hampshire’s are big and use their size as an advantage.My Cochin bantam never,ever won a fight between my New Hampshire hens and escpecially the New Hampshire rooster.
 
That’s sucks,I love My New Hampshire.My Cochin bantam and New Hampshire bicker every so often,generally beginning of spring.Its normal for roosters to chase others off and it sounds like your boys are pretty normal.
New Hampshire’s are big and use their size as an advantage.My Cochin bantam never,ever won a fight between my New Hampshire hens and escpecially the New Hampshire rooster.
My Cochin is large fowl, so he probably has at least 25-40% weight advantage on the New Hampshire.
 

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