Sugar???? also, what can't chickens eat????

[dlhunicorn]

I thought the buttermilk was pasteurized (which is why you need to use the "live" cultured yogurt and not the pasteurized one):
http://www.usprobiotics.org/products/
"In food products, the probiotics used are primarily species of Lactobacillus or Bifidobacterium, or Streptococcus thermophilus.

In the United States, yogurt is required to be produced by the fermentation by Lactobacillus bulgaricus and Streptococcus thermophilus. However, post-fermentation heat treatment of yogurt, which kills all live cultures, is allowed. To help consumers distinguish between yogurts that contain live active cultures and those that do not, the National Yogurt Association established a "Live Active Culture" seal. The seal is available for use by any yogurt manufacturer on packaging and requires refrigerated yogurt to contain 108 viable lactic acid bacteria per gram at the time of manufacture. The seal also can be used on frozen yogurts containing 107 viable lactic acid bacteria per gram at time of manufacture. However, these counts do not differentiate probiotic bacteria from starter culture bacteria (L. bulgaricus and S. thermophilus), and therefore the seal is not useful in determining if adequate levels of added probiotic bacteria are present in a yogurt. The NYA is also currently petitioning the United States government to have the standard of identity of yogurt changed to require that the starter cultures be viable in the finished yogurt..."

...no, I was unaware that there was live culture probiotic buttermilk offered in the USA... still considering the warning in my previous post on milk / dairy products exascerbating e.coli growth I peronally would still be a bit hesitant and just stick with the yogurt...

 

[eggzettera]

I heard that they do not care for uncooked potatoe skins - but as mentioned before they have the good sense not to eat what is bad for them - but I would not tempt that theory by putting antifreeze in front of them.....interesting about the yogurt.....have yet to read the make your own yogurt thread.....used to have a specific machine and made my own but that was years ago......interesting about the FDA reg's - the more I know the more afraid I become.....what does our tax dollars do?

 

[wegotchickens]

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They go towards making more reg's in more convoluted language so that ordinary people need a law degree to understand them, I think...

 

[dlhunicorn]

 

[wowmanacat]

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[NYREDS]

Strange, I was raised on a dairy farm & we always gave milk to the chickens. Didn't seem to harm them. I still feed milk ocasionally when we have some hat's about to go bad.
In fact, when we clean out the fridge everthing we eat goes to the chickens. This includes a lot of stuff people here will tell you you just can't feed chickens.
Here's what my observations have led me to believe. If you can eat it they can eat it.

 

[allpeepedout]

As per comment of NYREDS, my grandmother had cows and would often milk a cow and leave the milk out a day to "sour" for the chickens. It would thicken up a bit, and she would pour it out in a big pan. They went nuts for it. I am giving my babies plain yogurt.
On making your own yogurt, I use the crockpot method with a candy thermometer, for reliability.

 

[Neil Grassbaugh]

Problem with dairy products is that the amino acids that make up the "crude protien" number are not well utilized by birds. It is like feeding raw meat to cattle. There is some use in it but a dog will benefit much more.

Feeding milk to chickens comes from the old days when the butterfat was the real value in milk and the skim milk left over after seperation was utilized in what ever way could be imagined on the farm. The skim milk went first to the hogs because they could utilize it better. What was left over went to the birds.

Do any of you remeber helping turn the cream seperator?

Today no milk products are used as feed in large scale poultry production that I know of.

 

[hansolo]

So can chickens taste sugar or not?
Mine are crazy over anything sweet so I am puzzled.

 

[elmo]

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No, it's true.

http://www.exoticpetvet.net/avian/dairy.html

As for feeding dairy products to chickens in the olden days, it may have been a matter of not giving enough to each chicken to cause problems, or just not noticing the resulting liquidy poo, or perhaps just not connecting the two, or just not caring, since they didn't want to waste the leftover milk.