Sulmtalers Thread

[cluckandcrow]

I sell hatching eggs and ship all over the U.S. Here is a link to some I have up for auction http://www.ebay.com/itm/172529094607?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

 

[MontainBourbons]

I sell hatching eggs and ship all over the U.S. Here is a link to some I have up for auction http://www.ebay.com/itm/172529094607?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

These are from you. How many generations have passed with yours.

 

[cluckandcrow]

I still have my original two flocks and none have died. I have a Gold Duckwing Flock and a Gold Wheaton Flock. From those I have made a third flock.

 

[FaerieChicken]

I sell hatching eggs and ship all over the U.S. Here is a link to some I have up for auction http://www.ebay.com/itm/172529094607?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

These are from you. How many generations have passed with yours.

I still have my original two flocks and none have died. I have a Gold Duckwing Flock and a Gold Wheaton Flock. From those I have made a third flock.

I wish I could open the ebay link. I am at work and it is blocked

I am getting mine from a wonderful lady in Oregon!

I am so excited to be getting some of these birds. What do I need to look for when choosing breeders to continue a rotation of chicks for meat?
Is 1 cock going to be good, or should I have 2 and several hens?

TIA

 

[MontainBourbons]

Hello I am wondering if what I just heard is right. I just heard that sulmtaler eggs take 22 days to hatch. If this is true my hatches hatch right on time when I kept thinking that they were late. Please feel free to leave your experience so I can know what is good.

 

[cluckandcrow]

One rooster to 10 hens is a good ratio. I am still hatching chicks off my originals and they are four years old. So you will be good for a while as far a breeding. I would keep a extra rooster for a backup. Even though you probably will not need him. I rotate mine in and out. You can run them in the same pen as long as you have about 15 hens. However, at about a 1 1/2 years old you will have to separate them because they will really start to fight over the hens and damage themselves. Hopefully you will get a gold wheaton rooster and a gold duckwing rooster and can run two flocks of different colors.

 

[GabrielBane]

Just a few photo updates of my flock! I know I have a few PMs to respond to, will get back to those as soon as some family leaves town.

 

[Chickielady]

Hello I am wondering if what I just heard is right. I just heard that sulmtaler eggs take 22 days to hatch. If this is true my hatches hatch right on time when I kept thinking that they were late. Please feel free to leave your experience so I can know what is good.

They do take a wee bit longer than normal...they take their time.
You just have to let them do their thing.

I have Silver Wheaten, and Red Wheaten Sulmtalers.

 

[Chickielady]

I built under a big mesquite tree.

Awesome run ! I envy your dryness !

 

[Chickielady]

I appreciate the clarification. Is there a page on the thread that explains the coloring genetics? What happens when you cross a gold(red) wheaten with a silver?

They do not cross, you get one or the other, kinda like Labradors...

There is no such thing as a duckwing Sulmtaler.....if you study the females in each case you will see that they are indeed, Wheaten...colored body, dark tail.
Looking at the males of the chicken world, the black breasted red, the partridge and the wheaten males all look the same.

Incidently, the Duckwing and the wheaten males also look alot alike...........
But that is where it stops.
ALL those coloration's females are different...
Here is photos:

RED WHEATEN COCKEREL SULMTALER:


RED WHEATEN HEN SULMTALER:


SILVER WHEATEN COCKEREL SULMTALER:


HEN REAR END at the top is a SILVER WHEATEN HEN, the bottom is a RED WHEATEN HEN SULMTALER, notice one hen is silvery white-ish, one is orangey-tannish ? BOTH HAVE BLACK TAILS.................WHICH IS 100% WHEATEN characteristics.



THIS is a hen PARTRIDGE, notice her coloration & pattern....(she has a saddle on)


This is her full brother, a PARTRIDGE Chantecler.........now if you flip up & down you will notice that the RED WHEATEN SULMTALER & the PARTRIDGE CHANTECLER and about the same coloration, BUT their females are the Phenotype which differs. Yup, even the Partridge Chantecler looks like it has a duck wing on its wing! THAT is not what makes a duck wing pattern.


Here is another...Black Breasted Red Game.............NOTICE the female...the males all look the same, it is the females who have the characteristics of the color pattern...yet the male Black breasted red looks like the Red Wheaten Sulmtaler AND the Partridge Chantecler...............and the photo below are not my birds.........the rest are.

These are WHEATEN MARANS:
Once again notice the male is a black breasted red bird and the hen is colored the same as the Wheaten Sulmtaler.

THIS is a SILVER DUCKWING Wellsummer Cockerel: How do we know ? Cuz we look at his female counterpart, who shows the phenotype.

THESE are SILVER DUCKWING WELLSUMMER HENS:

They are gorgeous.....and notice the FEMALE is the one who states what coloration the chicken is....not the male. And thanks to @fakokoWV as these 2 photos of SILVER DUCKWING birds are hers.and they are awesome !
I love their salmon breast.


Now, when your Sulmtaler hen looks like these SILVER DUCKWING hens, then you will have silver duckwing sulmtalers.
But so far, all Sulmtalers are Wheaten.
Red Wheaten or Silver Wheaten...............but Wheaten all the same.

OK...off my soap box...but just telling so many people over & over...and GFF farms web site is wrong ! They are Wheatens and Silver Wheatens, not duckwing, or the hens would be duckwing like these beauties above.