Sumatra Thread!

[ramirezframing]

Hows everyone and your birds doing? Hope its going good for y'all.

 

[Peep-Chicken]

Raven is being nosey! She is bothering one of our hens in there.

She doesn't like pictures

 

[championsumatra]

Quote: I think the most important thing to do with blues is to focus on the conformation, then worry about the color. If you find a bird that has both, wow good find! but most likely you will come across a problem.

 

[raph]

Hi how are you, all my birds are good, I'm trying to get my Pekins to go broody so I can hatch some sumatras. We haven't had any problem with the fox wich is good. My next plan for the sumatras in 2014 is to find out where those single comes came from here's a more upto date picture of one off the cockerels.recentley I haven't been drawing I've been building a coop for the Pekins when they have chicks.

 

[ramirezframing]

Raph, I would not breed any that have a single comb. Do you still have the parents of this rooster? If you do, does one have a single or modified pea comb?

Nice coop by the way, good luck with the broodies.

 

[ST3PH3N]

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Raph,

I wonder if someone used ayam cemani or another dark skinned breed to darken the skin a while back and your boy descends from that progect. The cemani is rather rare and very expensive but I have heard of people using it to blacken sumatras skin, and your rooster has a very black face. All sumatra roosters I have seen had a "mulberry" face that lightens to a red in the winter but darkens in the summer sun. I hope you find the answer,

-Stephen

 

[BGMatt]

Raph,

I wonder if someone used ayam cemani or another dark skinned breed to darken the skin a while back and your boy descends from that progect. The cemani is rather rare and very expensive but I have heard of people using it to blacken sumatras skin, and your rooster has a very black face. All sumatra roosters I have seen had a "mulberry" face that lightens to a red in the winter but darkens in the summer sun. I hope find the answer,

-Stephen

The Swedish Black Hen is similar in that regard and probably much more common in Europe than the Cemani. But yeah that'd be a good guess as to what happened resulting in a single combed Sumatra. If I remember my comb genes correctly Single Combs are recessive to everything else? So using that male in breeding would lead to a mess of issues since his offspring (and their offspring) could carry genes for single comb even if they don't express it?

 

[raph]

Thanks, the parents have good combs, all of the male chicks had the single combs. I don't think the father is the cause, because in the fathers last hatch all of the cockerels had pea combs. It would be the hen, I need to hatch some more and see what they come out like. Has anyone else ever had sumatras with single combs?

I'm pleased with my coop, I'm going to put some felt on it and get some more pictures on the weekend.

 

[ST3PH3N]

Here are some pictures I just took of my guy this afternoon. As you can see he is still coming back from the molt but is filling in quite nicely. It looks like he'll get some very long sickles and hopefully his saddle will get more length, time will tell. See how red his face got over winter, it darkens when he's out in the sun but I hope some chicks I hatch this season will be darker. One of my hens has started laying every other day, I picked up her fourth egg today but I won't be saving the eggs to set until more hens are laying.

-Stephen

 

[ramirezframing]

Thanks, the parents have good combs, all of the male chicks had the single combs. I don't think the father is the cause, because in the fathers last hatch all of the cockerels had pea combs. It would be the hen, I need to hatch some more and see what they come out like. Has anyone else ever had sumatras with single combs?

I'm pleased with my coop, I'm going to put some felt on it and get some more pictures on the weekend.

If you can, breed her to a different rooster. This will tell you if its a combo of the two parents together or not. I haven't had any single combed sumatras.