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Swan eggs hatching, need help please!!!

Kiokio

In the Brooder
Jun 14, 2016
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Ok, may 16 I got a call about a nesting pair of wild swans. The male was attacked and killed by a dog and the female who had been incubating 3 eggs, left the nest and wouldn't return. On arrival it was decided to remove the eggs and attempt to artificially incubate them.
When I got home, I found that my rcom 20 pro was broken so I started up my tlc 4 brooder, 37.5. On candling all 3 eggs were fertile and alive. To me, they looked like chicken eggs at 7-10 days. As I'm in Ireland, where humidity is high, I've kept them between 40 and 50% humidity and they seemed to be growing well.
About 2 weeks after getting them, I came down to find the brooder temp had dropped to 25o celcius and the eggs were cold to the touch. I tweaked the temp button and got it back to the correct temp.
I ordered a cheap incubator from the nearest supplier, a covatutto 16. This arrived the next day, in the meantime, one of the eggs died and started to stink, so I removed it. Obviously the cold killed it.
The other 2 eggs were stronger and continued to grow, then I got a notification from my electricity supplier saying my supply would be interrupted for several hours last Tuesday. I asked in a local pub 2 miles away if I could plug my babies in for the duration of the interruption, bless them, they said yes! Drove the babies over, as carefully as possible and brought them home 2 days later. Still alive and growing.
At this point I've had the eggs with me for 29 days, when candling 2 nights ago, I saw the dip down on egg #1,and egg #2 dipped yesterday. No tapping or peeping noise yet from either. I was worried yesterday so I float tested them, egg 2 showed definite movement, egg 1 I didn't notice anything.
I'm concerned at this stage that they haven't internally pipped and that the membrane may be shrink wrapping. I'm very wary of intervening as I don't know exactly when their incubation began.
Can anyone talk me through this process please? I have studied Petes incubation of goose eggs, as I haven't found much helpful info about swan incubation and am trying to use his methods.
 
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I have absolutely no experience with swans, but I do with other waterfowl... the membrane shouldn't shrinkwrap as long as the shell is still intact... after drawdown, it could be 2 or 3 days *I think* before they pip... not much you can do, hon, until they internal pip...
If your humidity is still at 55% or so, I do suggest upping it to 65% at least, no higher than 75%...
 
Thanks for responding guys, I'm feeling better after reading more threads of yours. Twice today I restrained myself from using the drill bit on them...
This forum is huge, I've been reading it for hours everyday since I got the eggs!
Fingers Crossed
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Thanks for responding guys, I'm feeling better after reading more threads of yours. Twice today I restrained myself from using the drill bit on them...
This forum is huge, I've been reading it for hours everyday since I got the eggs!
Fingers Crossed
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You're doing fine, Kiokio! I may not have swan experience, my expertise lies with Call ducks, but I do have assisted hatching experience... gotta wait for that internal pip, or at least I've never had good lick with anything before that... you've got lots of support here now, and feel free to PM again even if you just need to be talked to... :)


Sorry, my first thought would be Kathy. @casportpony

I'd sure love to see these babies hatch!


Kathy is a good idea! Thank you! :highfive:
 
Still waiting, plenty of time left at this party! No internal pips, no bad smells, so I'm hoping they're alive.
I realised the other day that this is a still air incubator as I've always used forced air and I had the temp just under 100f the last couple of weeks, so I've brought it up slightly in tiny increments since yesterday.
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This is a pic of the cob after the attack.
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Their beautiful nest.
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The dodgy brooder...
 

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