Swedish flower hen dying possibly

That is actually labeled as a COMPLETE feed... and by law must meet specific guide lines... while I may not agree with the % being used as optimal... it should not actually have been enough to cause death (and I take back at least the snarkiness I directed at the farmer). Does the "chick cereal" have a mill date?

If mill date is good and you haven't been given lots of snacks like corn or scratch... then coccidiosis is WAY more suspect and I would start the Corid right away... at the drench dose.. (directly to your dropper fed one)
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Sorry for sending mixed signals. Please don't blame yourself. You are doing your best and the loss hurts enough without having to feel guilty. :hugs

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Thank you so much for all your information. I really appreciate the effort you have done to give mensome info!
The food does not have a mill date. Do you think the milled feed is ok to use?
We have Corid and started them on it today. Their water container is small, I would say about a 16oz water bottle size. So we just put a drip of Corid in there.
Matilda is the only one with green poops. Which makes me feel better and feel like the rest may end up being ok. But poor Matilda, she is really struggling. But I wont give up!
 
Thank you so much for all your information. I really appreciate the effort you have done to give mensome info!
The food does not have a mill date. Do you think the milled feed is ok to use?
We have Corid and started them on it today. Their water container is small, I would say about a 16oz water bottle size. So we just put a drip of Corid in there.
Matilda is the only one with green poops. Which makes me feel better and feel like the rest may end up being ok. But poor Matilda, she is really struggling. But I wont give up!
I would give her a direct dose of the Corid IN ADDITION to making the correct dosage solution.
So...direct oral dose of liquid Corid is 0.10ml per pound of weight. She needs to be hydrated with the mixed solution as well.

Make up a 1/2 or whole gallon of the Corid water at a time if you need to - a drip in the water bottle is not going to do it.
Correct dose is 2 teaspoons of liquid Corid per gallon of water.

Did you provide grit for the chicks free choice?
I'm not sure if the feed has anything to do with it or not. Use your judgement on that and maybe research the cereal to see if anyone else has had problems.
 
I would give her a direct dose of the Corid IN ADDITION to making the correct dosage solution.
So...direct oral dose of liquid Corid is 0.10ml per pound of weight. She needs to be hydrated with the mixed solution as well.

Make up a 1/2 or whole gallon of the Corid water at a time if you need to - a drip in the water bottle is not going to do it.
Correct dose is 2 teaspoons of liquid Corid per gallon of water.

Did you provide grit for the chicks free choice?
I'm not sure if the feed has anything to do with it or not. Use your judgement on that and maybe research the cereal to see if anyone else has had problems.
So we lost Matilda this morning.
The others seem to be doing fine. We are still giving the chicks the food from Big R, along with the vitamins and Corid. So hopefully the others dont develope her symptoms. Their green poop has stopped so thats good.
 
We are still giving the chicks the food from Big R, along with the vitamins and Corid
The vitamins (thiamine) counteract the Corid... I would do the Corid only for now and then follow up with the vitamins after treatment is complete.

Sorry for your loss. :hugs

So you are using a water bottle... the drip kind has no chance of poo getting inside.. or is it just the standard chick water bottle with a well in the bottom? Make sure the shavings aren't wetter under neath than they look on top as happened to me once.

The food does not have a mill date. Do you think the milled feed is ok to use?
They all have dates by law, it's just a matter of finding it. In the link you posted for the company the second photo shows a best by date above the guaranteed analysis...
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As one example, the Purina feed I buy has the date (milled not best by) stamped on the bottom bag paper seem. I have also see them just stamped on the front of some feeds. These are important because depending on storage conditions, nutrients can diminish rapidly with exposure to sun light, air, humidity, and heat, etc. Well stored feed may last well past the suggested date but poorly stored (or even transported since we don't know what happens before it reaches us) can go rancid or lose nutrients much sooner than the best by date... JUST for informational purposes.

I probably wouldn't in this case... but if you wanted to send the chick in for necropsy to state poultry lab to confirm COD... you would have more true answers. A link to state labs if you decide to go that route if it isn't too late for the last loss or in case you get another... It is often free or very affordable to back yarders.
State poultry labs

To me coccidiosis is most suspect... there should have been enough energy for them to still be active and trying to eat with more neural symptoms if it were nutrient deficit, according to my thought process.... Crop blockage would be another suspect... but more than one loss in a close period seems less likely.

I do think that food is OKAY to feed.. but maybe not ideal. I wouldn't toss it out unless it has gone bad. I might mix it in with the new chick feed or just feed it to your older flock, as is or add water and make a mash treat.

I'd be curious also to see a full nutritional analysis from the company on the feed if you happen to contact them and request it. I wonder if it's already been included in the thread started by @Kiki because I'm sure she'd love to include it if not.

I'm sorry for the following statement... if it bothers you. But for informational purposes to anyone reading... Swedish Flower proved to me that most breeds are better on paper than in person AND so called "land race" breeds... aren't actually any better if even as good (or hardier) as many other breeds. If I had nothing for comparison they were lovely fun birds. Otherwise, with all my previous breed and breeding adventures.. they really were just meh. Still, NO loss is fun and I'm sorry. It makes those left.. THAT much more special. :hugs
 

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