Swedish Flower Hen Thread

[warbirds]

oh! hey! I emailed you about Sussex last week. (saw your signature line) LOL didn't realize you had swedes too. btw. haven't decided anything about Sussex, I've got 3 cochin boys coming in next week that'll be taking up all my quarantine space for a few.

Please see post #821 - that was only in response to a post regarding crooked toes on received juveniles..........by then I had quite a flock already. I've had SFH since the very beginning of SFH in America.

I don't like doing business on a public forum, I don't consider it polite to others, but it's nice to at least know your intentions since I had no response to my email to you regarding the Sussex............no big deal, internet connections for many across the country have been spotty at best during all this extreme weather - took me half an hour this evening to even download my mail with all the bumps off the connection as yet another storm passed through the area (COME ON SPRING!!!). I'll pass that young man along to the next person on the waiting list.

Meanwhile............back to Swedish Flower Hens on the Swedish Flower Hen Thread.

Doc

 

[ki4got]

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uh... ok. I wasn't referring to anything on a prior post of yours, I *just* noticed your name on the signature line thought I'd say hey and let you know I didn't ignore the email about the Sussex, but have a lot of other things going on right now... I may have posted to you before, but never put 2 and 2 together, since I found the Sussex on a web search, not byc.

so now I'm confused but I guess that's nothing new when someone throws me for a loop about a post I haven't read in well over a year (or more).

 

[ki4got]

There is no way to feather sex a SFH. That is simply not true. I don't know everything about genetics, but when it comes to bold lies, I have an issue. I can have Greenfire post in this thread if you think I'm wrong.

for future reference tho, it's helpful if you quote the post you're replying to, so we all know specifically who you're talking to.

All i know is that Leigh has been right more than a few times.. for me, it doesn't work. period.

I was never arguing with you about that, and I don't think anyone else was either.

and i'll argue with leigh, at least on my monitor, it looks like a blue penguin. LOL ok, for those that don't know my 'shorthand' that would be - IF it's a pullet, a blue bird with gold around the neck/hackles and white mottling. if it's a roo, it would be a tricolor blue/red/white bird, likely without the wing triangle (crow-winged). aka carrying the birchen gene.

only a few times I've been right about sexing a chick early on, and that's usually within a week, I go by comb comparrisons... and even then I'm still wrong about half the time! (reference back to the splash based crested cockerel I posted earlier).

this boy I knew was a boy the day he hatched! 4 days late at that. getting ready to throw out the eggs in the hatcher (I leave for a day or two usually but something came up and it took another couple days before I could get to it)... he was loud and stubborn and determined that he WAS coming out of that blasted shell come heck or high water. and did so on his own without help from anyone else thank-you-very-much! told my hubby they were just the same, so it had to be male...

at 8 weeks old, he's pretty obvious now.

NOW I'm going to bed...

 

[Trooper Man]

 

[TurnipTruck]

I just wanted to update folks on my flock status after my bout with the neighbors dog. Especially since many of you offered assistance and encouragement.

The long story short is. The neighbor refused to do anything and told me to sue them if I wanted any money for my losses. Animal control came and gave them a few days to re-home their dog or would be taken away.

The final casualty list on my end was 2 pekin ducks, 4 SFH and a Buff Orpington in the space of about 2 weeks. The last 2 SFH's were taken after the dog found the week spots in my newly constructed enclosed run.

That all said, I still have 7 SFH chicks and a Cockerel to get my flock going. They have the company of 3 white silkies, 1 White Leghorn and and easter egger.

It was a rough go for me for a bit there. But in the end I think we came out of it with a decent foundation for my SFH flock and without irreparably damaging our relationship with the neighbor.

I will post some pictures of the survivors when I get some time to take some photos.

 

[insanity]

TurnipTruck
Sorry for your loss but at least the dog will be gone.

 

[OldChurchEggery1]

I just wanted to update folks on my flock status after my bout with the neighbors dog. Especially since many of you offered assistance and encouragement.

The long story short is. The neighbor refused to do anything and told me to sue them if I wanted any money for my losses. Animal control came and gave them a few days to re-home their dog or would be taken away.

The final casualty list on my end was 2 pekin ducks, 4 SFH and a Buff Orpington in the space of about 2 weeks. The last 2 SFH's were taken after the dog found the week spots in my newly constructed enclosed run.

That all said, I still have 7 SFH chicks and a Cockerel to get my flock going. They have the company of 3 white silkies, 1 White Leghorn and and easter egger.

It was a rough go for me for a bit there. But in the end I think we came out of it with a decent foundation for my SFH flock and without irreparably damaging our relationship with the neighbor.

I will post some pictures of the survivors when I get some time to take some photos.

Turnip Truck, I'm not familiar with livestock damages in Maryland, but in the Code of Virginia there are certain consequences for confirmed livestock killers: http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+3.2-6552 Here's direct quotation: "Any person finding a dog committing any of the depredations mentioned in this section shall have the right to kill such dog on sight as shall any owner of livestock or his agent finding a dog chasing livestock on land utilized by the livestock when the circumstances show that such chasing is harmful to the livestock." The key there is "any person," which would include pretty much any passerby witnessing the event. Even when rehoming animals it's quite strict in determination that a confirmed livestock killer must be killed if it is rehomed outside of Virginia and then returns to the Commonwealth. There's even a state-mandated compensation level for livestock killed by dogs: http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+3.2-6553 $10 per fowl when an animal control officer is notified within 72 hours. The animal control officers in Maryland may or may not be empowered with the same ability to legally stipulate a confirmed livestock killer's owner pay damages.

Our neighbor's dog has come down to our house and killed poultry on numerous occasions. One night the thing completely devoured (no feather, no entrails, nothing left) 7 nearly-grown Jersey Giants after digging under a chicken tractor, tearing through the wire, and pulling them from the internal roost. We told our neighbor if his dog was ever on our property harassing our animals again we'd shoot the thing on sight. We called animal control once after the neighbor's other dog got loose and bit my husband. Come to find out both dogs were five years old and had never had more than puppy shots. No rabies, no distemper, no parvovirus- no vaccinations associated with routine care. The dogs are in practically starved conditions and chained to trees in his back yard. I'm amazed the county didn't seize them both when they came out for the bite investigation.

I'd urge you to check the Maryland code and see what can be done through the animal control officer. It never hurts to check and you might find there's a legal means outside of a court proceeding to be recompensed for your losses.

Added: How much longer do your neighbors have to rehome the dog and are they required to confirm control over the animal for the remainder of the time it's in their care? That was one of the stipulations our neighbor was given in order to maintain possession.

 

[HaplessRunner]

I just wanted to update folks on my flock status after my bout with the neighbors dog. Especially since many of you offered assistance and encouragement.

The long story short is. The neighbor refused to do anything and told me to sue them if I wanted any money for my losses. Animal control came and gave them a few days to re-home their dog or would be taken away.

The final casualty list on my end was 2 pekin ducks, 4 SFH and a Buff Orpington in the space of about 2 weeks. The last 2 SFH's were taken after the dog found the week spots in my newly constructed enclosed run.

That all said, I still have 7 SFH chicks and a Cockerel to get my flock going. They have the company of 3 white silkies, 1 White Leghorn and and easter egger.

It was a rough go for me for a bit there. But in the end I think we came out of it with a decent foundation for my SFH flock and without irreparably damaging our relationship with the neighbor.

I will post some pictures of the survivors when I get some time to take some photos.

So sorry to hear that you had continued losses. Thankfully, the dog is now gone. Unfortunately, it sounds as though your neighbors are less than worthwhile people. So that will probably be an ongoing legacy.

 

[TurnipTruck]

I'd urge you to check the Maryland code and see what can be done through the animal control officer. It never hurts to check and you might find there's a legal means outside of a court proceeding to be recompensed for your losses.

Added: How much longer do your neighbors have to rehome the dog and are they required to confirm control over the animal for the remainder of the time it's in their care? That was one of the stipulations our neighbor was given in order to maintain possession.

I'm an attorney by trade, so I definitely did my legal homework.

Nuts and bolts of it, the dog was a breed the isn't even legal to own in my county, which in an of its self should have resulted in the dog being put down immediately. However, she had just had puppies and I was concerned for their health and well being. She was not being feed the way a nursing mother should and I think that is most likely why she decided that my animals were a good secondary source of food.

The most aggravating thing about the whole mess is that I lost my last bird in the 3 day gap between filing the complaint with animal control and when they finally came out. Thankfully the dog is now gone (it was gone 2 days later).

I am grateful that that episode is now in the past. However, the lesson I have learned is that I will not have any pity on the starving dog should it ever happen again. 1 dead chicken = animal control involved immediately.

 

[SunnySkies]

I'm an attorney by trade, so I definitely did my legal homework.  

Nuts and bolts of it, the dog was a breed the isn't even legal to own in my county, which in an of its self should have resulted in the dog being put down immediately.  However, she had just had puppies and I was concerned for their health and well being.  She was not being feed the way a nursing mother should and I think that is most likely why she decided that my animals were a good secondary source of food.


The most aggravating thing about the whole mess is that I lost my last bird in the 3 day gap between filing the complaint with animal control and when they finally came out.  Thankfully the dog is now gone (it was gone 2 days later).


I am grateful that that episode is now in the past.  However, the lesson I have learned is that I will not have any pity on the starving dog should it ever happen again.  1 dead chicken = animal control involved immediately.

I am so sorry you ended up losing so many